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this is another episode of UFO Quran I'm

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Ben and I'm Joe and this is where we

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talk about UFOs aliens and all things we

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associate a wine sprague it'sit's a very

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important episode for me number 28 is

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very symbolic Oh

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because 28 is also the year I lost my

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virginity whoa dude 1928 no no I was 28

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years old oh dude hell yeah - I was born

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on June 28 no I stood so significant for

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both of us yeah man I'm just kidding you

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man I've been dating for like eight

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I'll just joking I've been slamming that

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ham a long time but like really hams

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real ham like I swam hams on the

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yeah so Ryan sprang today do don't you

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talked about this so excite well I mean

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this is after the fact I'm so excited

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for you people to hear this episode like

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well I'm excited for it before the fact

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I I am also excited for the in the

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episode and also furthermore and also

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talking to him yes dude so what do we

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got on the on the agenda today for the

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Facebook thing oh yeah dude we got so

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much stuff on the Facebook we're gonna

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have to go through yeah if you're not on

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our group from a Facebook group check

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out UFO garage podcast group join the

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conversation post some stuff you find

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stuff something on YouTube or an image

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post it and see what people say yeah

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this one is called this one's awesome

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from Chris the oh five three the memoirs

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of Jack Carole fart one did it's so

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awesome that was pretty dope such an

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awesome story that was really awesome I

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can't wait for part two

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I know a Chris is part two uh is it is

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it is it already done or is it like

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you're just waiting to put it out

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he's still gotta talk to him or what cuz

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that was pretty sick

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I enjoyed that one yeah that was pretty

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dope that was pretty dope yeah I didn't

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realize that he was the one that he that

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did the interview whoo right great

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here's a nice experience or interview I

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did recently yeah yeah I didn't know

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that he was doing that interviewed him

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uh-huh that's sick yeah yeah uh that's

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his podcast right there oh dude well

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yeah cuz then he also did like cast he

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also did the the live or he did the

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podcast with his friend from alien Colin

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I think too and then recently he did how

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was it a Bigfoot one I think I can't I

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can't remember so I can't remember but

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yeah dude I enjoy it conspire a theory

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is the name of the podcast mm-hmm that's

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so check it out it y'all it's really

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good yeah I don't want to ruin the story

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but man it's sick

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yeah his experience her story was was

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pretty awesome yeah it's deaf what else

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we get that snake thing that rattlesnake

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thing uh-huh

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timber rattlers oh yeah that's pretty

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crazy with the being like sweeping up

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the room uh-huh

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in a medical room right yeah well you

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know I can't really touch you am I done

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he's like well you know you got some

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stuff you got to do it sounded like like

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one of those tertiary actors in a like

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an FBI show where they go and like

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interview people at their jobs and they

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keep doing their jobs is like the FBI is

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interviewing like put down the broom

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exactly there's always that dude I like

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CSI Miami where he's like the box guy

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where he's holding a box and just moving

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boxes like the police are talking to you

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yeah Melinda Leslie last week dude yeah

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do you don't suck that was pretty sick

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no that was a good one yeah man yeah

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that was that was really in-depth is

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awesome talking to her he's one of my

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faves morning yeah do you father hard

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yeah thanks Alejandra for doing that

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photography touch-up that was

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immediately yeah most of the ensures

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that your picture sucks

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watch this yeah I couldn't even figure

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out how to do it I use Photoshop all the

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maybe there's I'll go look at it

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tutorial maybe we just send all of our

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stuff to on the hound reverse and then

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right never have her doctor it up for us

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it's pretty sick oh it looks like so the

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Trump and UFOs video that Dan posted I I

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clicked on it and it said the videos

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were moved which is weird because

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earlier today I started watching the

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beginning and then the old lady was like

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hey let's take the dogs for a walk and I

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was like okay and so we went to dogs for

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a walk and I came back and then it was

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time to podcast and then when I got here

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so between that time me eating tacos

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taking the dog the dogs for a walk yeah

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and then coming here it was taken down

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creepy looks like posted a new link

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maybe it was just a link in the video

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but you you must have clicked on the

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video from Facebook I wonder I did it

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didn't work didn't yeah that was

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December 8 today it was uploaded today

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Oh Rio oh it says reuploaded to fix

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audio problems oh alright no conspiracy

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you know what I still think the FBI did

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yeah do me well now we're gonna have to

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go back and watch the whole thing so so

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we're gonna talk about it but they were

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it got taken down we're like it's Piercy

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and then we were like well let's talk

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about the conspiracy and then now I just

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got reloaded so now I don't have

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anything to say bummer

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yeah well Wow damn weed you know it's

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it's still cool we're gonna have to yeah

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yeah what I want it yeah so we'll be

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prepared for next week's episode

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UFO garage podcast oh yeah yeah well uh

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man this is an interview with Ryan

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Sprague awesome so stoked for you guys

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to hear it

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what do you say we get into it let's get

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into it dude well what's up Bryan thanks

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for being on the UFO garage podcast and

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I dude my pleasure guys hey listen I've

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and in the past couple months or so when

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I heard about you guys so I'm super

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honored to be here to be completely

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honest - thank you thank you awesome man

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thanks a lot yeah we uh we uh we

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thoroughly enjoy your show as well man

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yes it's uh it's it's a blast it gets me

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through my workday you know what I'm

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saying

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that's what podcasts are for let's be

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absolutely well hey man I guess just for

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maybe some of our listeners who may not

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be too familiar with you let them know

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you know who you are what you do brother

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yeah absolutely

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um I I'm a UFO researcher journalist

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podcast host author blah blah blah

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sort of done it all in the UFO field um

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ever since I was pretty young to be

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honest I had a UFO sighting back in 1995

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that kind of changed my life and um you

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know after that I started looking into

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the topic and taking out books at the

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library on UFOs and you know Loch Ness

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monster Bigfoot all that's all that fun

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stuff and it kind of just followed me

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for the rest of my life I started

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interviewing people in my hometown of

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Syracuse New York you know even so much

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to say I interviewed a Vietnam veteran

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about a UFO sighting he had over the

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Pacific Oceans I started started pretty

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young I was the first person he ever

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told about this and kind of the last two

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he passed away a few months after I took

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down his story so I really think it was

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meant to be and that that kind of

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propelled me forward to keep doing this

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whole UFO journalism thing and just

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going around meeting people talking to

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people and hearing their incredible

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stories about UFOs

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that's awesome yeah that's super cool I

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want to hear only hear the story man oh

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my story yeah yeah yeah Oh totally yeah

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yeah tell us about your experience you'd

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like run us through from the beginning

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to the end you got it you got it

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I'm sort of at this point got a Cliff

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um so yeah this happened in the summer

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of 1995 I was on a fishing trip with my

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my parents we we would

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and we would fish off the st. Lawrence

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river that separates Canada from the US

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right near New York and I was fishing

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I had my discman with me so that brings

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it back to the mid nineties and yeah

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yeah that was listening to Green Day so

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that brings even back to the 90s even

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more nice so I'm listening to like

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basket case or one of the songs on there

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and it started getting dark so I'm like

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all right I should probably go in for

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the night and I'm not reeling my line in

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and I could see these three white lights

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in the water and you know I kind of bend

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down on the dock the dock was right next

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to our motels so I could like see inside

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to our room and I'm looking down into

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the water I'm seeing what what are these

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lights coming from and you know

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naturally I look up and realize it's a

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reflection so I look up and I see three

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white lights in the triangular formation

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just kind of hover in there and no

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structure I didn't see like a machine or

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you know windows nothing like that but

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there was like this other red ball in

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the middle very hazy and it just kind of

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hung there this triangular formation and

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I couldn't get any noise out I tried to

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yell in to my dad because I could

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literally like see him in the hotel room

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the motel room there and I couldn't

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nothing but I couldn't move I couldn't

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scream I couldn't do anything and I just

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stared up at it man and then it just it

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started to float over the water I

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finally get a little like

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twelve-year-old squeal out and my dad

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comes outside and as he's coming out he

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actually sees this thing with me and we

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both watched it as it floated across the

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river headed towards Canada and

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disappeared out of sight so I knew it

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they're either Canadians or they're

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trying to cross the border without you

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know what there's illegal fireworks I

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don't know they're good note getting

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over there they're not of age to drink

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yet so they're going to get some beer

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so true can't you drink at a younger age

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over cannabis I don't know I don't know

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I think that's it that's a good point I

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know a lot of my friends went to

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colleges in Canada because they knew

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they could drink younger so smart smart

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dudes dude yeah I mean I mean that's

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it's crazy you know like how how just

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seeing something in the sky briefly can

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completely kind of change the trajectory

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of the rest of your life you know like

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even as a little kid or even as an older

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person like just something so like I

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wouldn't say small right because I mean

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it definitely changes your like it

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changes you a little bit you know these

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experiences that happen and and man like

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you know me and Ben you know out in

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Sedona

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you know we witnessed you know a little

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something and dude I mean it really does

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like something inside you just kind of

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like clicks you know it did definitely

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changes a little something inside of you

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that's a good way put it clicks it kind

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of turns you turns a switch on I mean

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I'm gonna be honest guys I was like an

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athlete like baseball was my life when I

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was younger you know baseball girls and

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rock music that's about it and then this

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goddamn UFO thing just dropped in my lap

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and it did it changed the whole course

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of my life I'm a I'm what some consider

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like a professional UFO researcher not

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that that's an actual thing but that's

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what a lot of people consider me and I'm

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like where the hell did this come from

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this you turn but I I think that's kind

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of how it is and I mean being out lisa

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done' you guys must hear and see so many

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stories of things i can't even imagine

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no dude we've we've heard some crazy

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stuff out there in sedona man i mean

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have you ever been out there before I

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have not I've only been to Tempe for a

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UFO conference so that's as far as close

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as I come bro if you ever get a chance

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you need to go to Sedona I mean I mean

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it is not only is it gorgeous but dude I

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mean the energy in that area is is

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incorrect

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man like it's it's such a good time you

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it's one of those places you could

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literally go just sit out on rock and do

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absolutely nothing and have one of the

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best times your life yeah yeah and I

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mean some of the most conventional

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skeptical people I know have gone out

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there and you know beyond seeing a UFO

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themselves they do say the same thing

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there's something about it so there's

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got to be something to it guys I don't

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know you might you might be where the

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portal is that all these things are

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coming in and out of that's right that's

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right I have a couple friends out there

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we had Melinda Leslie on last week and

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you know a couple weeks before that one

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of our other friends Jocelyn who lives

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out there and she lives right behind

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Cathedral Rock and supposedly during the

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you know the Rendlesham case right

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you know how supposedly he got this

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download of information and it was like

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binary code and stuff like that so you

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know like it turned out to be like ley

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lines and like points on the earth and

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stuff like that

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apparently Sedona was was was one of the

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the points that that was you know that

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was in there and yes yes yeah apparently

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that this is that portal is right there

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above Cathedral rockness right in her

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backyard so she that knows yeah she

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takes photos like all the time and she's

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got incredible photos just up stuff

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she's like that's what we do we just sit

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outside and take pictures all the time

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because a lot of times you can't see

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certain things and then you develop

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these photos and they're all over the

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place

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oh absolutely that I mean a quick story

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about Rendlesham the gentleman you're

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talking about Jim Penniston I've spoken

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to him on several occasions and the

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whole binary code thing I know he just

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came out with a new book all about

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deciphering those codes so I definitely

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suggest people check that out but um

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yeah some of these ley lines he found

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and the coordinates were incredible and

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I actually think I know you're talking

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about Jocelyn I've spoken to her on

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several occasions too and what I what I

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love about her is she's out there just

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experiencing this she's not you know

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come one come all

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start ravishing come see the come see

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the portal so I

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think that's amazing and I'm so happy

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you brought up Rendlesham when when I'm

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not doing UFOs I'm actually a playwright

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here in New York City and I actually one

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of the first plays I wrote when I moved

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here was about the Rendlesham UFO

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encounter oh yeah I've been working on

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it for about eight years now and I'm

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nowhere near being good I don't think I

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ever so you're gonna you're gonna like

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try and make like a little like a film

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out of it or they may be like a live

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Broadway play out of trying man so I

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work on Broadway here so I definitely

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got some connections I I just try to

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slip some scripts to some producers

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every now and again um and it really

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perks their ears when they hear it's

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about a UFO case they're like what the

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hell we've never seen UFOs on Broadway

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so um exactly that's all I'm saying that

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would be super interesting to see really

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would yeah so it's been um it's been

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interesting yeah yes dude that's awesome

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man so dude I mean you know like your uh

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I mean I love your podcast dude I mean I

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think it's it's uh it's kind of like the

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you know the need to have Diet kind of

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to you know the UFO community and just

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you know people listening to it you

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bring a lot of interesting guests on you

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have you know a lot of you know facts

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and things like that you know like our

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show is kind of like the dr. pepper of

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like UFO community you know what I'm

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saying like it may not be important to

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the diet but I mean you know it's nice

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to have a little sweets every now and

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then bro you know are you kidding me man

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I literally moments before we got on got

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me some chicken and broccoli at my local

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Chinese place and a dr. pepper so he is

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a necessity it is a necessity I will

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send you a picture I'm not kidding I

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have one sitting in my lap right now and

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I'm a huge I me being from Texas I mean

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that's it's kind of what we drink you

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know

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here in New York we're big on Pepsi

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because Pepsi Cola is like their

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headquarters is here in New York so you

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can't even find freaking Coca Cola

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anywhere here it's more like living in

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this weird Pepsi Oasis and it's

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disgusting I had

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I'm not a fan of Pepsi either man just

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like flat coke to me this though for

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some reason Pepsi is kind of good with

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Taco Bell

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I think it's cuz they both taste like

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[\h__\h] that like it complements you

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noticing you put [\h__\h] on [\h__\h] and call

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it a day yeah that's right dude right

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there's the title of your episode don't

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drink Pepsi yeah it's awesome dude

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that's awesome so I so dude like through

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listening to your show right you know I

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noticed that you know I you know you

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said that you loved you know fire in the

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sky and you know you're friends with

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Travis dude like when I saw that movie

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when I was a kid that was it I was

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hooked

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really yeah oh man I I remember the

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first time I saw it it was um it was

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either like Showtime or HBO one of those

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like pay you know pay cable things and

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we weren't we didn't really get the

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station so it was like that fuzzy thing

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you know when you're trying to watch

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Paul trying to watch porn when you're

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like 13 and look through the phase but

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for me it was yeah exactly but for me it

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was [\h__\h] Travis Walton getting

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abducted by aliens so I have to like

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watch that through the the snow on the

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TV

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oh man that what I finally saw that

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movie dude I was the same way it just it

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it did something I think to a lot of

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people triggered a lot of people and and

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told a story of what a lot of people

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didn't know was based on actual events

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so it's it's up there man when people

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come to me and say what abduction cases

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do you put oh you know stock in because

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I'm gonna be completely honest as UFO

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researcher I'm still very on the fence

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when it comes to the abduction

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phenomenon and what it is what it

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represents but Travis is one of those

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walking enigmas with you know multiple

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witnesses who saw it happen

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who took lie-detector tests and passed

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with flying colors that this [\h__\h]

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happened and I can't take that away from

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them

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I can and I will tell you this to

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meeting the guys so many times it

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doesn't look like he's aged today in

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like 50 years it's crazy

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Israel Ladykiller yeah like yeah that

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guy's got a good hairline and mustache

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he's always got laid always got ladies

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around him too so you know yeah I guess

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that's the key yep guitar whether we saw

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last time that we were at the UFO

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Congress out in Phoenix a couple of

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months so perfect yeah that's where we

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got to meet him he's a pretty awesome

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dude

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yeah yeah man so how do you like I have

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like a real hard problem I think with

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like I don't know separating separating

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the aliens with the UFO you know what

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I'm saying because I've kind of I feel

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like men like yes there is probably some

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stuff that you know maybe is it piloted

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by anything but at the same time like

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when you hear cases like like Travis's

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and with all these multiple witnesses

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saying that you know yeah we saw this

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thing right and then and then Travis is

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like yeah I was in this thing and then I

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saw these beings there too like do you

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do you separate the two or can you or

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you know what I'm saying yeah absolutely

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man I mean that's half the struggle of

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being a UFO researcher is I study UFOs

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I'm not an alien tala gist I'm not like

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a what would you call it a bio chemist

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nothing like that astrobiology forget

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about it

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math is not my thing but you know you

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give me a solid UFO case to go

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investigate and and I'll do it so yeah

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it's super tough to separate the UFO

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from extraterrestrial anytime you go to

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the mass media or you're getting

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interviewed about this stuff they always

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say so you know what what are the aliens

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up to and I'll say I don't know I have

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absolutely no idea all I can tell you is

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these 25 people saw a boomerang shaped

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craft in 1997 over Phoenix Arizona so I

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mean we don't know what they are and we

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can't even say that any of these UFOs

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are

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directly connected to one another I mean

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it could be ten different reasons for

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these things a million different reasons

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and we're we're still I think just

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scratching the surface of that so when

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it comes to et I think that's one tiny

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tiny possibility of what we could be

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dealing with yeah yeah yeah so man like

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I mean it could be like you know you

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have ufology on one hand and then like

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we need to kind of like start alien

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ology like on the other hand you know

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totally yeah and I mean it's I fall

537
00:22:36,430 --> 00:22:34,220
victim to it too I mean I'm always

538
00:22:38,770 --> 00:22:36,440
posting [\h__\h] about little green men and

539
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:38,780
in the greys and this and that but I

540
00:22:44,620 --> 00:22:41,570
mean when it becomes such a part of pop

541
00:22:46,990 --> 00:22:44,630
culture and just like the mostly the

542
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:47,000
American zeitgeist I'd say like it's

543
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:49,490
tough it's tough because I try to tell

544
00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:53,120
people yeah like oh I'll draw an alien

545
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:55,520
on that for you if you want or like I

546
00:23:02,380 --> 00:22:59,840
have a ton of alien swag all over all

547
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:02,390
the time but at the core of it I want to

548
00:23:08,170 --> 00:23:06,050
know what UFOs are and if there's an

549
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:08,180
intelligence behind them and what do

550
00:23:14,020 --> 00:23:11,690
they want whatever it is that is so yeah

551
00:23:15,790 --> 00:23:14,030
I don't know do you do you think

552
00:23:18,430 --> 00:23:15,800
personally that our government will ever

553
00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:18,440
come out and truly do a disclosure like

554
00:23:26,860 --> 00:23:20,470
hey do you think that'll ever happen

555
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:26,870
[\h__\h] no are you kidding me I I apologize

556
00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:29,570
I get very passionate with that question

557
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:31,550
because look I mean they've been lying

558
00:23:35,530 --> 00:23:34,010
to us for so long anyways we thought

559
00:23:37,630 --> 00:23:35,540
Project Blue Book was the end of the

560
00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:37,640
government investigating UFOs come to

561
00:23:42,730 --> 00:23:40,370
find out what two years ago secret

562
00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:42,740
Pentagon UFO programs so I mean yeah

563
00:23:47,650 --> 00:23:45,110
they're always gonna be they're always

564
00:23:51,070 --> 00:23:47,660
gonna be deceitful they're always going

565
00:23:53,170 --> 00:23:51,080
to to bend it whichever way they want

566
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:53,180
and also guys I always tell people this

567
00:23:59,470 --> 00:23:56,000
the government is dumbest [\h__\h] like they

568
00:24:02,860 --> 00:23:59,480
are they I don't think they are capable

569
00:24:04,810 --> 00:24:02,870
of this huge huge cover-up that everyone

570
00:24:07,270 --> 00:24:04,820
thinks they are everyone has their own

571
00:24:09,340 --> 00:24:07,280
job within government the dude over here

572
00:24:10,220 --> 00:24:09,350
has no idea what the girl over here is

573
00:24:13,159 --> 00:24:10,230
doing

574
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:13,169
so like I don't think that they could

575
00:24:16,610 --> 00:24:15,090
ever disclose because honestly I don't

576
00:24:20,419 --> 00:24:16,620
think they know what the [\h__\h] is going

577
00:24:22,730 --> 00:24:20,429
on either but I always tell people it's

578
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:22,740
not what the government knows or doesn't

579
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:25,290
know it's that they can control the

580
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:27,330
information that gets out to us so you

581
00:24:31,460 --> 00:24:29,250
just got to be careful what you what

582
00:24:34,460 --> 00:24:31,470
you're hearing all the time I mean look

583
00:24:36,770 --> 00:24:34,470
I think this whole Tom DeLonge to the

584
00:24:39,049 --> 00:24:36,780
stars thing is awesome but we've got to

585
00:24:41,450 --> 00:24:39,059
remember that's one narrative that's one

586
00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:41,460
lens to look at the UFO phenomenon

587
00:24:46,909 --> 00:24:43,860
through and with them it's a threat yeah

588
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:46,919
it is a threat in the military loves

589
00:24:51,010 --> 00:24:48,330
hearing that [\h__\h] because then you're

590
00:24:53,870 --> 00:24:51,020
gonna get funding for it so absolutely

591
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:53,880
it's tough it's tough because I do not

592
00:24:57,890 --> 00:24:56,490
think UFOs are as big of a threat as

593
00:25:00,169 --> 00:24:57,900
people think I think they could actually

594
00:25:04,130 --> 00:25:00,179
help us a lot more than hurt us whatever

595
00:25:05,270 --> 00:25:04,140
they may be so to to sort of circle back

596
00:25:06,980 --> 00:25:05,280
to your question do I think the

597
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:06,990
government will disclose know I think

598
00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:09,090
whatever's behind this stuff is gonna

599
00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:11,940
disclose when they're damn ready yeah I

600
00:25:15,710 --> 00:25:14,100
think it's just it's way bigger than we

601
00:25:17,270 --> 00:25:15,720
could possibly imagine and there's

602
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:17,280
probably a reason for it

603
00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:20,400
but again like you said like I feel like

604
00:25:25,850 --> 00:25:23,790
the not all the government branches do

605
00:25:28,190 --> 00:25:25,860
know what the what the story is and

606
00:25:31,820 --> 00:25:28,200
maybe maybe they just know half of it

607
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:31,830
yeah dude I'm never gonna agree on one I

608
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:34,320
don't think no I think they know like

609
00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:36,000
they all will probably just know as much

610
00:25:39,950 --> 00:25:37,710
as we do the only difference is maybe

611
00:25:41,659 --> 00:25:39,960
they have some files right and anyhow

612
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:41,669
maybe like little pieces of like some

613
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:43,770
crash it's really like the only thing I

614
00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:46,320
feel like separates them from you know

615
00:25:51,770 --> 00:25:49,260
from from us you know and and and yeah I

616
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:51,780
mean they may know like a couple of like

617
00:25:56,450 --> 00:25:54,450
deep secrets but other than that dude I

618
00:25:59,539 --> 00:25:56,460
mean they probably don't know [\h__\h]

619
00:26:02,060 --> 00:25:59,549
either right I have to agree yeah I

620
00:26:05,539 --> 00:26:02,070
think and again it's all spin and like

621
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:05,549
they can control the information when

622
00:26:11,030 --> 00:26:07,650
they just flat out deny that it exists

623
00:26:14,539 --> 00:26:11,040
so I I think just be careful be careful

624
00:26:16,610 --> 00:26:14,549
who you listen to and what you put stock

625
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:16,620
in but just do your own work that's what

626
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:18,210
I tell people don't trust what the

627
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:19,770
government's gonna tell you about UFOs

628
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:20,850
yeah

629
00:26:27,390 --> 00:26:23,770
absolutely talk to Mike that dude at the

630
00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:27,400
bar or like the police officer that you

631
00:26:31,650 --> 00:26:29,440
know goes to your coffee shop be like

632
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:31,660
hey anyone ever report a UFO to you I

633
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:33,130
want to hear about it like those are the

634
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:35,200
people I want to hear from I don't care

635
00:26:41,850 --> 00:26:37,840
about Louis Elizondo I don't care about

636
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:41,860
like you know some ex-cia agent tell me

637
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:44,170
about it I want to hear from like the

638
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:46,090
person whose life was changed by an

639
00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:49,810
event and how it affects know I'm all

640
00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:51,280
about the people having these

641
00:26:56,190 --> 00:26:53,230
experiences that's that's what it comes

642
00:26:58,260 --> 00:26:56,200
down to for me because like you guys it

643
00:26:59,910 --> 00:26:58,270
changed me like whatever I saw I don't

644
00:27:02,280 --> 00:26:59,920
care what it was it changed the entire

645
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:02,290
path of my life and I'm very thankful

646
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:04,330
for that I've made incredible friends

647
00:27:10,050 --> 00:27:06,610
and colleagues through the UFO topic and

648
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:10,060
it's made me a very understanding and

649
00:27:14,490 --> 00:27:13,210
empathetic person and I think we need

650
00:27:17,910 --> 00:27:14,500
that in the world right now more than

651
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:17,920
ever yeah do it absolutely yeah and you

652
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:19,810
know like hey man you know me and Ben

653
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:21,250
talked about this on the show a lot to

654
00:27:27,390 --> 00:27:24,250
like you know I I you know I I agree

655
00:27:29,490 --> 00:27:27,400
like it is kind of cool like what the to

656
00:27:31,740 --> 00:27:29,500
the stars Academy is kind of doing but

657
00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:31,750
totally same time like man we we have to

658
00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:33,790
like we have to be really really careful

659
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:36,070
with that too because it's you know you

660
00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:37,690
you look at all these people involved

661
00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:40,150
and I mean you got these guys that were

662
00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:43,150
part of the aviary groove yeah you know

663
00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:45,040
the working group part of it you know

664
00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:46,900
like all these different groups you know

665
00:27:52,590 --> 00:27:49,750
that we're purposely like set out in the

666
00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:52,600
UFO community - like discredit and to

667
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:53,950
disprove and make people look like

668
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,290
quacks and now we're supposed to like

669
00:27:59,550 --> 00:27:58,000
sit back and be like oh yeah they're

670
00:28:00,980 --> 00:27:59,560
telling us all this stuff like yeah I

671
00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:00,990
totally believe it because it's the

672
00:28:05,820 --> 00:28:03,550
government you know it doesn't any sense

673
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:05,830
whatsoever like how can you say for all

674
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:08,530
these years like don't trust the

675
00:28:11,730 --> 00:28:10,330
government and then now like they say

676
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,740
some stuff and everybody's like oh yeah

677
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:13,360
it's totally true the government said it

678
00:28:17,010 --> 00:28:15,010
you know what I'm saying yeah yeah

679
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:17,020
that's such a good point everyone has

680
00:28:22,350 --> 00:28:19,120
their own truth and when your truth is

681
00:28:23,850 --> 00:28:22,360
being validated by any anyone you know

682
00:28:25,890 --> 00:28:23,860
that's when you're gonna say yep yep

683
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:25,900
yeah yeah I'm with you now because it's

684
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:28,720
truth is very malleable and I think

685
00:28:31,910 --> 00:28:31,210
you're right when it comes to to this

686
00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:31,920
group

687
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:33,480
there's some very questionable people

688
00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:35,850
involved and you gotta be careful and I

689
00:28:41,180 --> 00:28:38,190
think when you see the people who are

690
00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:41,190
like just totally all-in with to the

691
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:43,470
Stars Academy like there is nothing else

692
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:45,330
this is the way it's gonna be this is

693
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:47,760
disclosure they tend to be on the

694
00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:50,640
younger side and that's because they

695
00:28:54,410 --> 00:28:52,740
don't know about the aviary they don't

696
00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:54,420
know about the working group they don't

697
00:29:00,080 --> 00:28:56,310
know the the track record of some of

698
00:29:03,140 --> 00:29:00,090
these people so I get do your research

699
00:29:04,970 --> 00:29:03,150
dig look and talk to the older guard of

700
00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:04,980
ufology for Christ's sake I'm meeting up

701
00:29:10,940 --> 00:29:07,620
with my my mentor Peter Robbins

702
00:29:13,010 --> 00:29:10,950
investigative UFO guy tomorrow morning

703
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:13,020
and every month we meet here in New York

704
00:29:18,290 --> 00:29:15,600
City and do it we just debrief for like

705
00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:18,300
two hours over some some bacon and eggs

706
00:29:23,150 --> 00:29:21,150
and coffee and like I hear the stories

707
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:23,160
he's telling me from like the 40s the

708
00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:25,530
50s the 60s because I guarantee you

709
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:27,990
that's gonna play a big part in your

710
00:29:33,170 --> 00:29:29,970
research moving forward and just

711
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:33,180
building off of that so yeah yeah for

712
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:37,200
anyone who's Pro TTS a or anti TTS a I

713
00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:38,910
really think the truth plays somewhere

714
00:29:42,890 --> 00:29:40,860
in the middle so yeah yeah yeah

715
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,900
absolutely do yeah you know me I've been

716
00:29:46,790 --> 00:29:44,640
like we've really liked taking some big

717
00:29:48,140 --> 00:29:46,800
steps lately you know cuz I mean this is

718
00:29:50,860 --> 00:29:48,150
something that we've been into since we

719
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:50,870
were kids right and and you know

720
00:29:56,390 --> 00:29:53,760
recently like we stopped so we were in a

721
00:29:58,220 --> 00:29:56,400
band together for a long time you know

722
00:30:00,350 --> 00:29:58,230
that the band kind of split up the

723
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:00,360
drummer moved out to California you know

724
00:30:04,010 --> 00:30:02,490
for work and stuff and me and Ben just

725
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:04,020
had this free time on our hands and

726
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:06,000
we're like dude let's let's do a podcast

727
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:08,010
I mean we all we do is sit around and

728
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:09,810
talk about like UFOs and stuff all the

729
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:12,090
time anyways we might as well like you

730
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:14,390
know make a podcast about it so you know

731
00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:17,760
we're kind of breaking out of this like

732
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:19,830
you know just being like YouTube

733
00:30:24,530 --> 00:30:22,170
researchers mainstream yeah we're really

734
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:24,540
like trying to talk to people now and

735
00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:27,120
you can look through these files and

736
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:29,670
dude like so much reading has been

737
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,530
involved in like usually I'm not a big

738
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:33,360
reader but I mean this has been awesome

739
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:35,850
for us you know just trying to put this

740
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:38,640
puzzle together dude and it's it's a

741
00:30:43,610 --> 00:30:41,130
it's pretty crazy like the deeper you go

742
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:43,620
like the the more unanswered questions

743
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:44,720
you have

744
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:47,600
yeah I mean I can't tell you I'm any

745
00:30:51,970 --> 00:30:50,000
closer to knowing what the hell is going

746
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:51,980
on with UFOs I could tell you that much

747
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:54,049
and in anyone who does tell you they

748
00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:56,330
have the answers guys I don't have to

749
00:31:02,110 --> 00:30:58,850
tell you this like run away because they

750
00:31:04,210 --> 00:31:02,120
don't they loot Li do not this phenomena

751
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:04,220
eye and I say phenomena I don't think

752
00:31:08,740 --> 00:31:06,110
we're dealing with one thing it is

753
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:08,750
always gonna be a step ahead of us and I

754
00:31:13,330 --> 00:31:11,210
bet that's sobering in one way but at

755
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:13,340
the same time like that's what keeps me

756
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:15,679
going that carrot you know being dangled

757
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:18,049
in front of you I every time I find one

758
00:31:21,159 --> 00:31:19,760
answer I know it's gonna lead to

759
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:21,169
something else something else I'm gonna

760
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,289
change my mind go back do this rinse and

761
00:31:28,990 --> 00:31:26,720
repeat and I love that and you know the

762
00:31:30,850 --> 00:31:29,000
fact that like you guys started a

763
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:30,860
podcast like that's more than most

764
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:33,200
people ever do they will go on YouTube

765
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:35,330
and write some scathing comment about

766
00:31:38,740 --> 00:31:37,370
someone would be like that's [\h__\h] or

767
00:31:41,529 --> 00:31:38,750
you're crazy

768
00:31:44,019 --> 00:31:41,539
instead of like actually doing some

769
00:31:45,789 --> 00:31:44,029
digging so like you know bring on the

770
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:45,799
book spring on the documentary just

771
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:48,350
bring on the movies it's it's great and

772
00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:50,450
I love it so when I can find kindred

773
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:52,070
spirits to like talk about this stuff

774
00:31:57,730 --> 00:31:54,769
with and not get like laughed out of the

775
00:31:59,799 --> 00:31:57,740
room yeah that's awesome and that's

776
00:32:01,750 --> 00:31:59,809
changing to that whole ridicule factor

777
00:32:04,269 --> 00:32:01,760
with these topics you guys entered the

778
00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:04,279
UFO fields and podcasting world at the

779
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:06,590
right time man because let me tell you I

780
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:08,690
have lost job interviews I've lost

781
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:17,690
second dates talking about UFOs so yeah

782
00:32:22,779 --> 00:32:19,850
dude yeah and I think it's cool like you

783
00:32:26,169 --> 00:32:22,789
know it's almost weird how like when

784
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:26,179
somebody says I don't know it almost

785
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:28,610
makes it more credible than pretending

786
00:32:33,580 --> 00:32:31,490
like you do know absolutely yeah I mean

787
00:32:36,490 --> 00:32:33,590
those are the people I trust and that's

788
00:32:38,769 --> 00:32:36,500
that's science that's that's you know

789
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:38,779
building off of something and knowing

790
00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:40,490
that like the minute you figure

791
00:32:45,310 --> 00:32:42,289
something out there's gonna always be a

792
00:32:48,009 --> 00:32:45,320
next step and that's what I love and

793
00:32:50,769 --> 00:32:48,019
there's so what what I love about the

794
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:50,779
UFO field you know self-proclaimed is

795
00:32:55,980 --> 00:32:53,450
that it does involve everyone whether

796
00:32:59,730 --> 00:32:55,990
it's you know religions

797
00:33:01,020 --> 00:32:59,740
and history academics everything

798
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:01,030
everything you could possibly think of

799
00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:03,370
soft scientists hard sciences everyone

800
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:05,740
can have a place in ufology and like

801
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:07,710
when you can find something that

802
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:11,110
inclusive that's amazing that we can all

803
00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:14,170
just talk about this topic like with one

804
00:33:19,770 --> 00:33:16,390
another in so many different ways and

805
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:19,780
you know even maybe find some answers

806
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:21,850
along the way that's that's that's the

807
00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:23,890
beauty of it I think I love when I can

808
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:26,200
like open my email and I've got like

809
00:33:31,470 --> 00:33:29,650
someone saying they were brought aboard

810
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:31,480
a craft and brought to the pleiades and

811
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:33,490
then the next email is from like some

812
00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:36,610
nuclear physicists telling me like this

813
00:33:45,390 --> 00:33:39,340
formula to how the craft work and I'm

814
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:45,400
just like what the [\h__\h] is my life it's

815
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:47,710
amazing and I know you guys probably get

816
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:49,690
those kind of emails and stuff too when

817
00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:52,090
when when people start paying attention

818
00:33:57,390 --> 00:33:54,700
to you and put stock in what you have to

819
00:33:59,700 --> 00:33:57,400
say that's a big responsibility so I

820
00:34:01,530 --> 00:33:59,710
always tell people like I'm not gonna

821
00:34:04,290 --> 00:34:01,540
have answers for you but I will take

822
00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:04,300
your story down oh I will hash it out

823
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,670
with you but I am never gonna tell you

824
00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:08,800
what you saw or did not see cuz I was

825
00:34:14,670 --> 00:34:12,340
not there yeah it's a good way of

826
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:14,680
looking at it to you yeah and and and

827
00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:16,570
getting emails like stories written t I

828
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:19,000
was I'm just curious I mean you don't

829
00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:20,560
have to tell the whole story but what's

830
00:34:25,350 --> 00:34:22,660
your like craziest story that you heard

831
00:34:26,730 --> 00:34:25,360
not crazy but you know out there I mean

832
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:26,740
that one sounded pretty interesting

833
00:34:33,090 --> 00:34:28,930
about somebody coded the pleiades oh

834
00:34:36,060 --> 00:34:33,100
yeah I mean it really runs the gamut I

835
00:34:38,670 --> 00:34:36,070
get probably a daily basis at least like

836
00:34:41,310 --> 00:34:38,680
a few emails about a UFO sighting or a

837
00:34:43,140 --> 00:34:41,320
contact experience and I try to keep

838
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:43,150
them all on the same level of like

839
00:34:47,370 --> 00:34:45,850
integrity and empathy and just alright

840
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:47,380
tell me your story I'm not gonna judge

841
00:34:52,350 --> 00:34:50,320
you let me just hear it and I mean

842
00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:52,360
there's one I always kind of go back to

843
00:34:57,780 --> 00:34:55,750
that had multiple people involved in

844
00:35:01,140 --> 00:34:57,790
that right there is one I'm like okay so

845
00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:01,150
this isn't like one person's subjective

846
00:35:04,650 --> 00:35:02,950
experience like there were more than one

847
00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:04,660
person involved with this

848
00:35:09,390 --> 00:35:06,700
and this happened I think back in the

849
00:35:13,490 --> 00:35:09,400
early 2000s this woman sent me an email

850
00:35:16,859 --> 00:35:13,500
out in Michigan and she she saw a

851
00:35:18,539 --> 00:35:16,869
triangular UFO over her property she's

852
00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:18,549
going out to walk her dogs at night and

853
00:35:22,289 --> 00:35:19,990
this thing was just hovering above her

854
00:35:23,970 --> 00:35:22,299
house and her dogs like wouldn't leave

855
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:23,980
the porch like they were scared

856
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:26,710
petrified of what it was so she's like

857
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:29,710
holy [\h__\h] like what what is going on

858
00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:32,049
here so she she starts yelling for a

859
00:35:36,089 --> 00:35:34,150
daughter inside she's like you know go

860
00:35:38,370 --> 00:35:36,099
come on here come see this bring a

861
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:38,380
camera bring a camera so her daughter

862
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:41,170
comes out and they're both looking up at

863
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:44,010
this UFO is trying to give their UFO and

864
00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:48,730
the mom is like super like chill about

865
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:51,160
it and she's feeling euphoric and she

866
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:53,170
said it was silent and beautiful and

867
00:35:57,870 --> 00:35:55,089
then she's looking over at her daughter

868
00:36:00,329 --> 00:35:57,880
who's like bent on the ground covering

869
00:36:03,089 --> 00:36:00,339
her ears and saying the thing is so loud

870
00:36:04,859 --> 00:36:03,099
I can't even I can't hear anything it's

871
00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:04,869
just like I'm so scared

872
00:36:10,019 --> 00:36:07,270
so you have the mother and daughter

873
00:36:11,339 --> 00:36:10,029
having a completely different perception

874
00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:11,349
of what was going on in that moment

875
00:36:16,049 --> 00:36:13,020
looking at the same thing and that

876
00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:16,059
really really struck me I'm like what

877
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:19,119
the hell is going on here these con

878
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:21,940
crafts can like literally alter people's

879
00:36:27,769 --> 00:36:25,450
perceptions or or kind of like you know

880
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:27,779
just be perceived completely different

881
00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:30,490
they did they did get some pictures of

882
00:36:35,970 --> 00:36:33,670
it by the way I should add that yeah

883
00:36:40,410 --> 00:36:35,980
yeah so I'll try to send those to you

884
00:36:42,059 --> 00:36:40,420
guys after we talk here crazy pretty

885
00:36:44,309 --> 00:36:42,069
freaking crazy I'm not gonna lie when

886
00:36:45,660 --> 00:36:44,319
she sent me the photos I was like okay I

887
00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:45,670
got something to work with here

888
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:49,630
so okay do you see what yeah there's

889
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,510
something to the them like emitting some

890
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:54,400
kind of frequency that like changes I

891
00:36:57,690 --> 00:36:55,599
think there's there's something there

892
00:37:00,359 --> 00:36:57,700
that changes the perception of the

893
00:37:02,789 --> 00:37:00,369
observer observer I think that's really

894
00:37:05,490 --> 00:37:02,799
super interesting it plays into like the

895
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:05,500
I don't know the science aspect of it I

896
00:37:10,109 --> 00:37:06,839
think it's really really interesting

897
00:37:12,359 --> 00:37:10,119
yeah a lot of people have coined this

898
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:12,369
sort of the eyes factor you know like

899
00:37:17,250 --> 00:37:14,250
time slows down

900
00:37:18,060 --> 00:37:17,260
the air becomes like thick everything

901
00:37:20,190 --> 00:37:18,070
becomes cool

902
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:20,200
and you know I had another guy tell me

903
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:22,810
the same thing like he couldn't hear

904
00:37:27,690 --> 00:37:24,730
anything he couldn't see anything

905
00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:27,700
and I will say too like when I had my

906
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:29,830
experience and I don't think what I saw

907
00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:32,320
was alien that I can flat-out say that

908
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:34,750
but I can't discount that either but I

909
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:36,760
felt that same thing like I couldn't

910
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:39,130
yell I couldn't do anything I was just

911
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:41,440
like frozen there so like is it

912
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:44,290
adrenaline is it fear or in are these

913
00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:46,930
things actually somehow physiologically

914
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:49,780
controlling us a I don't know I don't

915
00:37:53,370 --> 00:37:51,910
know there's my answer and that's why

916
00:37:56,130 --> 00:37:53,380
you should that's why you should trust

917
00:37:59,700 --> 00:37:56,140
me cuz I say I don't know yeah man I

918
00:38:01,980 --> 00:37:59,710
know like when I think back on you know

919
00:38:04,170 --> 00:38:01,990
when when me and Ben saw that stuff out

920
00:38:06,210 --> 00:38:04,180
in Sedona like I think back on it man

921
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:06,220
and you know it's probably about you

922
00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:08,560
know 45 seconds to about a minutes worth

923
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:11,500
of like you know air show that they put

924
00:38:17,460 --> 00:38:14,110
on but man like when I go back and think

925
00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:17,470
about it like I'm staring at at this

926
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:19,900
object in the sky and we're standing

927
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:22,690
outside you know and like I don't recall

928
00:38:28,350 --> 00:38:26,290
the wind blowing I don't recall noises I

929
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:28,360
don't know if it's just because we're so

930
00:38:32,460 --> 00:38:30,400
focused on like what was happening

931
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:32,470
around you know up in the sky that I

932
00:38:37,650 --> 00:38:35,710
blocked out all the other senses but ya

933
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:37,660
know it's it's it is one of those things

934
00:38:42,810 --> 00:38:39,310
man it just kind of makes you think like

935
00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:42,820
whoa I think so yeah and I think you

936
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:44,740
know it's human nature to when like

937
00:38:49,980 --> 00:38:48,250
something something out of the ordinary

938
00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:49,990
that's not part of your daily routine

939
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:52,180
that isn't like you know the same thing

940
00:38:57,180 --> 00:38:54,250
you've done every single day or looked

941
00:38:59,010 --> 00:38:57,190
at like it does it changes something it

942
00:39:01,500 --> 00:38:59,020
like like you said earlier it flips that

943
00:39:04,530 --> 00:39:01,510
switch on and then like the floodgates

944
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:04,540
are open I mean it's crazy after that

945
00:39:08,130 --> 00:39:05,890
all these people tell me they've had a

946
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:08,140
singular UFO event then they come to me

947
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:09,760
months later years later saying

948
00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:11,170
something else happened something else

949
00:39:16,860 --> 00:39:13,270
happened that woman in Michigan dude her

950
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:16,870
house became like haunted by poltergeist

951
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,800
after this after a UFO case she says I

952
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:23,200
mean her things were flying across the

953
00:39:27,630 --> 00:39:25,330
house the the electricity was going out

954
00:39:28,849 --> 00:39:27,640
she called the the electric people to

955
00:39:31,249 --> 00:39:28,859
come out and look

956
00:39:34,579 --> 00:39:31,259
it they come the dudes like trying to

957
00:39:37,609 --> 00:39:34,589
fix the electricity huge boomerang craft

958
00:39:39,799 --> 00:39:37,619
comes over the house and he sees oh and

959
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:39,809
he's like [\h__\h] this I'm out of here and

960
00:39:44,420 --> 00:39:42,569
he literally left and he was like I'll

961
00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:44,430
send someone else I'm never coming back

962
00:39:49,579 --> 00:39:47,220
here again so yeah is that is that the

963
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:49,589
one where the the daughters saw the

964
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:54,210
hooded figure yes it is see it yep yes

965
00:39:58,609 --> 00:39:56,730
that story's crazy the hook yeah that

966
00:40:01,099 --> 00:39:58,619
heard this one the yeah yeah how did

967
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:01,109
figure yeah right yeah better than I can

968
00:40:05,690 --> 00:40:03,210
do absolutely you've gotten anymore

969
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:05,700
update information on that or is this

970
00:40:09,950 --> 00:40:08,640
still kind of a work yes it is a work in

971
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:09,960
progress that's funny you mentioned that

972
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:12,569
I was in Michigan about a month and a

973
00:40:18,319 --> 00:40:14,690
half ago at a UFO conference and that

974
00:40:19,970 --> 00:40:18,329
woman was there and it was my first time

975
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:19,980
meeting her face to face everything

976
00:40:26,029 --> 00:40:22,170
before that was like it isn't that was

977
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:26,039
nineteen over Facebook and I got to like

978
00:40:30,620 --> 00:40:28,410
hug her and talk to her I was the first

979
00:40:33,470 --> 00:40:30,630
person she like shared the story with in

980
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:33,480
in my book I wrote an entire chapter on

981
00:40:37,789 --> 00:40:35,910
her her case with her and her two

982
00:40:39,979 --> 00:40:37,799
daughters and what you're talking about

983
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:39,989
is actually the younger daughter she

984
00:40:46,460 --> 00:40:42,210
wasn't part of the original UFO event

985
00:40:48,799 --> 00:40:46,470
but one night she was in bed and she got

986
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:48,809
up to go to the bathroom and she sees

987
00:40:52,789 --> 00:40:50,640
this hooded figure in the [\h__\h]

988
00:40:55,940 --> 00:40:52,799
hallway of their house and just chilling

989
00:40:57,890 --> 00:40:55,950
just chilling you know it's like four

990
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:57,900
feet tall hooded figure you know they

991
00:41:03,109 --> 00:40:58,890
normal I guess

992
00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:03,119
and it starts walking towards her she's

993
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:04,980
like nope nope but this is not happening

994
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:07,200
she runs into a room gets under the

995
00:41:11,420 --> 00:41:09,690
covers puts him over her head and she's

996
00:41:14,839 --> 00:41:11,430
just like this isn't happening this

997
00:41:17,210 --> 00:41:14,849
isn't happening and that covers start to

998
00:41:22,460 --> 00:41:17,220
come down and someone's pulling the

999
00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:22,470
covers down and it's her mom little

1000
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:25,140
suspenseful there it was her mom and she

1001
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:26,730
was like are you okay honey I heard like

1002
00:41:32,059 --> 00:41:29,609
some scampering in the hallway and she

1003
00:41:34,970 --> 00:41:32,069
couldn't move because she was still

1004
00:41:35,809 --> 00:41:34,980
petrified and as the moms like trying to

1005
00:41:38,029 --> 00:41:35,819
calm her down

1006
00:41:40,670 --> 00:41:38,039
hooded figure is going throughout the

1007
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:40,680
room surveying the area just looking at

1008
00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:41,280
you

1009
00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:44,460
and the daughter couldn't do anything

1010
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:47,190
she was frozen and petrified mom finally

1011
00:41:51,860 --> 00:41:48,960
says all right go to bed good night

1012
00:41:54,650 --> 00:41:51,870
leaves being follows the mom out of the

1013
00:41:57,500 --> 00:41:54,660
room and then boom that's it dude whoa

1014
00:41:59,240 --> 00:41:57,510
yeah what if they're just all around us

1015
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:59,250
all the time and we just don't know it

1016
00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:01,440
they're just walking picking [\h__\h] up and

1017
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:04,200
looking at it or absolutely man like

1018
00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:06,480
they they might be just as confused as

1019
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:08,520
we are like what the hell am i doing a

1020
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,110
lot of people say that with ghosts too

1021
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:12,240
like they're just as scared of us as we

1022
00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:14,130
are of them they don't know why the hell

1023
00:42:18,290 --> 00:42:16,830
you're seeing them all of a sudden like

1024
00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:18,300
maybe there was a glitch in the matrix

1025
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:22,260
or there was you know some time space

1026
00:42:28,070 --> 00:42:24,510
warp where you did catch a glimpse of

1027
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:28,080
someone back in 1700 freaking knows man

1028
00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:29,280
maybe that's what we're dealing with

1029
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:31,800
aliens do hate waves are ghosts ghosts

1030
00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:33,450
or aliens yeah I mean that's that's

1031
00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:34,020
crazy

1032
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:35,880
you know it's weird cuz like you always

1033
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:38,130
like any time you hear about it you know

1034
00:42:45,590 --> 00:42:42,000
it's like I saw this being and I I ran

1035
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,600
away or like I hid under my covers and

1036
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:48,000
it always makes me think like I wonder I

1037
00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:49,530
wonder what would happen if somebody was

1038
00:42:54,740 --> 00:42:52,740
like hey what's up hey what are you

1039
00:42:57,620 --> 00:42:54,750
doing over there and like walked towards

1040
00:42:59,420 --> 00:42:57,630
it or like ran towards it like I wonder

1041
00:43:01,070 --> 00:42:59,430
if it would haul ass out of there or

1042
00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:01,080
like you know what I'm saying like I

1043
00:43:06,110 --> 00:43:03,660
don't know it's great oh man I've got

1044
00:43:10,730 --> 00:43:06,120
I've got a quick story for a you want

1045
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:10,740
this one okay yes so this comes from my

1046
00:43:14,690 --> 00:43:13,110
my friend Mike Cleland he's the owl guy

1047
00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:14,700
I don't know if you guys heard if you

1048
00:43:19,820 --> 00:43:17,190
know oh yeah yeah okay I know him yeah

1049
00:43:23,570 --> 00:43:19,830
yeah he compiles all people's stories

1050
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:23,580
who somehow connect towels with UFOs or

1051
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:26,490
aliens so he he's got this story of this

1052
00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:29,280
woman who's like you know she's doing

1053
00:43:34,850 --> 00:43:32,940
the dishes after dinner and she's a

1054
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:34,860
multiple abductee she claimed to have

1055
00:43:38,420 --> 00:43:36,330
been abducted surround her lights and

1056
00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:38,430
she's she's just doing the dishes

1057
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:40,710
putting them away then she looks out her

1058
00:43:46,340 --> 00:43:44,130
window and a gray you know gray alien is

1059
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:46,350
staring at her in the window and she

1060
00:43:49,820 --> 00:43:49,290
looks over and she's like no no not a

1061
00:43:52,010 --> 00:43:49,830
chance

1062
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:52,020
she's like I am NOT going with you now I

1063
00:43:55,859 --> 00:43:53,680
got too much [\h__\h] to do

1064
00:43:59,220 --> 00:43:55,869
I gotta like help my daughter with her

1065
00:44:02,010 --> 00:43:59,230
homework and she literally like puts the

1066
00:44:05,370 --> 00:44:02,020
dishes down opens the door goes outside

1067
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:05,380
and she's like no no I'm not doing this

1068
00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:09,190
right and the alien starts going

1069
00:44:14,940 --> 00:44:11,710
literally like not telepathically saying

1070
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:14,950
owl owl owl owl owl like it's trying to

1071
00:44:20,849 --> 00:44:18,010
like scream memory itself into an owl

1072
00:44:23,789 --> 00:44:20,859
cuz a lot of abductees claim that yeah

1073
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:23,799
yeah the little [\h__\h] couldn't do it it

1074
00:44:29,940 --> 00:44:26,170
was just like failing miserably

1075
00:44:32,910 --> 00:44:29,950
like so it runs away dude the gray ran

1076
00:44:35,329 --> 00:44:32,920
away hit a tree fell over and then ran

1077
00:44:38,279 --> 00:44:35,339
off into the woods and she was like wha

1078
00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:38,289
she's like that was weird that's never

1079
00:44:42,569 --> 00:44:40,270
happened but okay I guess I can go help

1080
00:44:44,910 --> 00:44:42,579
my daughter with their homework now Jo

1081
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:44,920
so grace can be awkward too they can be

1082
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:47,920
clumsy yeah apparently they can [\h__\h] up

1083
00:44:52,650 --> 00:44:50,410
yeah because you always think of them as

1084
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:52,660
so like precise and calculated but but

1085
00:44:56,789 --> 00:44:54,250
you throw them off their game and and

1086
00:44:58,079 --> 00:44:56,799
and you know you you turn it around on

1087
00:45:00,559 --> 00:44:58,089
them and they're like oh [\h__\h] I don't

1088
00:45:03,690 --> 00:45:00,569
know what to do with this situation

1089
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:03,700
their stories were like they put people

1090
00:45:08,910 --> 00:45:06,010
back in like the wrong clothes or even

1091
00:45:10,890 --> 00:45:08,920
like the wrong car this one dude was on

1092
00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:10,900
the highway and he claimed to have been

1093
00:45:16,410 --> 00:45:14,230
abducted and when he like kinda came

1094
00:45:18,329 --> 00:45:16,420
back into it he was in a different car

1095
00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:18,339
looking at his own car on the highway

1096
00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:20,680
with someone else in it I'm not kidding

1097
00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:23,380
yeah like what do you do with that I

1098
00:45:27,390 --> 00:45:25,270
mean duh part of me wants to be like

1099
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:27,400
that that's not true like that's total

1100
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:30,010
[\h__\h] but at the same time like these

1101
00:45:33,269 --> 00:45:32,740
are normal sane people claiming these

1102
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:33,279
things

1103
00:45:39,690 --> 00:45:36,880
no no sense of like being fantasy prone

1104
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:39,700
or like hallucinating or on any drugs

1105
00:45:44,670 --> 00:45:41,770
nothing and they're claiming these

1106
00:45:46,769 --> 00:45:44,680
things so what do you do it yeah man

1107
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:46,779
yeah I know that's you know and it's

1108
00:45:50,190 --> 00:45:48,130
it's crazy because you know kind of

1109
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:50,200
brings it back to the you know like well

1110
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:52,000
maybe we should have like an alien ology

1111
00:45:55,769 --> 00:45:53,770
because you know we all you know we

1112
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:55,779
discussed the UFO aspect of this but

1113
00:46:00,359 --> 00:45:58,480
then when you you talk to people who who

1114
00:46:02,549 --> 00:46:00,369
have no interest in it who don't even

1115
00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:02,559
think about you know aliens or whatever

1116
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:03,640
you

1117
00:46:08,310 --> 00:46:05,650
then they have this experience and they

1118
00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:08,320
all seem to like kind of describe the

1119
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:11,710
same like certain kinds of beings you

1120
00:46:17,130 --> 00:46:13,930
know like whether they be like Grey's or

1121
00:46:19,620 --> 00:46:17,140
you know hooded figures or whites or

1122
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:19,630
whatever it is like they all kind of you

1123
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:22,690
know you know you you could just you

1124
00:46:26,010 --> 00:46:24,250
know I guess chalk it off to like oh

1125
00:46:27,870 --> 00:46:26,020
well they've heard stories they've read

1126
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:27,880
books they've seen movies that's what I

1127
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:30,490
do that's that's why they describe them

1128
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:33,610
this way but but you know like every

1129
00:46:39,810 --> 00:46:36,610
every line of [\h__\h] came from like a

1130
00:46:43,050 --> 00:46:39,820
little kernel of truth yeah no that's a

1131
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:43,060
good point man I I work under the

1132
00:46:47,250 --> 00:46:45,010
assumption that every story has some

1133
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:47,260
sort of value and yeah when you do hear

1134
00:46:52,620 --> 00:46:49,450
like the same damn story ten million

1135
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:52,630
times you know big head big black eyes

1136
00:46:56,910 --> 00:46:55,210
grave like I'm like okay like it's very

1137
00:46:59,940 --> 00:46:56,920
possible you are influenced by something

1138
00:47:01,830 --> 00:46:59,950
but at the same time like is it

1139
00:47:05,460 --> 00:47:01,840
chicken-or-egg like what came first the

1140
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:05,470
story or the person having the the same

1141
00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:08,530
sort of experience I don't know I mean

1142
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:10,060
you trace it all the way back to like

1143
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:12,880
the modern UFO era where like Kenneth

1144
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:13,330
Arnold

1145
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,390
dude sees like nine flying saucers which

1146
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:18,640
was a misquote to begin with he didn't

1147
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:21,310
even see saucer-shaped craft he saw like

1148
00:47:26,310 --> 00:47:23,440
these prescient things or whatever and

1149
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:26,320
they miss you know misheard him in the

1150
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:27,970
article and called it flying saucers and

1151
00:47:31,470 --> 00:47:29,920
then everyone sees flying saucers after

1152
00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:31,480
that because of this article so it's

1153
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:34,990
like were they really seeing them or was

1154
00:47:39,450 --> 00:47:37,570
it all influenced by this first claim of

1155
00:47:41,580 --> 00:47:39,460
seeing he's like I don't know it blows

1156
00:47:42,930 --> 00:47:41,590
my mind and maybe it's a like you said I

1157
00:47:45,570 --> 00:47:42,940
think the truth really does lie

1158
00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:45,580
somewhere in between and that's kind of

1159
00:47:49,530 --> 00:47:47,980
what the whole UFO field is based on -

1160
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:49,540
lies with a little bit of truth

1161
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:51,760
somewhere in the middle yeah dude yeah

1162
00:47:55,530 --> 00:47:54,130
and then I think a lot of it - like well

1163
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:55,540
maybe a little bit of it you know I

1164
00:48:00,450 --> 00:47:58,480
think it has to do with maybe like these

1165
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:00,460
people tell their story and then some of

1166
00:48:05,070 --> 00:48:03,910
the people who are taking the story you

1167
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:05,080
know like if it's just like a regular

1168
00:48:09,330 --> 00:48:07,450
like news broadcaster or something you

1169
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:09,340
know a lot of times I feel like those

1170
00:48:14,070 --> 00:48:11,290
people don't give a [\h__\h] like you could

1171
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,080
literally say like yes I saw a cube in

1172
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:16,720
the sky and you know it was kind of

1173
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:17,290
shifting

1174
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:19,390
these forms and I couldn't you know make

1175
00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:21,490
it out or whatever and then on the news

1176
00:48:25,260 --> 00:48:22,990
at night they're like they saw flying

1177
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:25,270
saucers yeah yeah and then you're like

1178
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:27,850
oh damn that dude saw saucers so

1179
00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:30,250
immediately in your head you think you

1180
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:32,470
know circular saucer shape when that's

1181
00:48:38,070 --> 00:48:35,530
not what you saw at all I saw cube right

1182
00:48:40,020 --> 00:48:38,080
yeah absolutely they're there when you

1183
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,030
look at the mass media there's buzzwords

1184
00:48:45,450 --> 00:48:42,640
that will get clicks and will get people

1185
00:48:47,340 --> 00:48:45,460
interested in saucers one of them and I

1186
00:48:48,990 --> 00:48:47,350
mean god I can't tell you the last time

1187
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:49,000
someone's actually like reported a

1188
00:48:56,250 --> 00:48:53,200
saucer to me it's it's everything but so

1189
00:48:57,900 --> 00:48:56,260
I don't I don't know man it's tough it

1190
00:48:59,520 --> 00:48:57,910
is tough when you're dealing with UFOs

1191
00:49:03,090 --> 00:48:59,530
in the mass media I think things are

1192
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:03,100
changing I think a lot of news anchors

1193
00:49:09,330 --> 00:49:06,720
and you know some of these really good

1194
00:49:10,620 --> 00:49:09,340
websites are actually starting to really

1195
00:49:13,890 --> 00:49:10,630
do their homework

1196
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:13,900
and you look at stuff like vice or the

1197
00:49:19,590 --> 00:49:17,110
drive the the military website and like

1198
00:49:22,410 --> 00:49:19,600
they're doing some heavy heavy reporting

1199
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:22,420
on UFOs and they are taking down precise

1200
00:49:27,690 --> 00:49:24,850
quotes and make it sure they're not like

1201
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:27,700
mincing words with anything and I really

1202
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:29,290
respect that that we have people out

1203
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:32,410
there finally taking the topic seriously

1204
00:49:37,410 --> 00:49:34,570
getting the accurate information out

1205
00:49:39,090 --> 00:49:37,420
there and really making waves and

1206
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:39,100
following up with people that's another

1207
00:49:42,090 --> 00:49:40,960
big thing with me is yeah you look on

1208
00:49:43,860 --> 00:49:42,100
your news Oh

1209
00:49:46,050 --> 00:49:43,870
some people saw something strange in the

1210
00:49:48,270 --> 00:49:46,060
sky and then that's it you never hear

1211
00:49:49,110 --> 00:49:48,280
about anything after that like well did

1212
00:49:52,350 --> 00:49:49,120
it happen again

1213
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:52,360
or like was there any sort of event that

1214
00:49:57,780 --> 00:49:55,090
triggered it beforehand or like give me

1215
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:57,790
something here guys but it was often

1216
00:50:01,530 --> 00:49:59,920
just fluff pieces in the news and I

1217
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:01,540
think that is shifting and changing

1218
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:05,110
where the UFO topic is getting closer

1219
00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:07,090
and closer to the front page of some

1220
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:10,030
major newspapers so I'm excited to see

1221
00:50:13,740 --> 00:50:11,890
where it goes and I have to admit we

1222
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:13,750
have Tom DeLonge to thank for that so

1223
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:18,850
thank you Tom for a lot of songs about

1224
00:50:25,950 --> 00:50:24,130
penises you know that's all good too

1225
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:25,960
that's that's one of those things where

1226
00:50:29,610 --> 00:50:28,090
it's like okay yeah I mean like there

1227
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:29,620
are so many people with that hop on with

1228
00:50:32,370 --> 00:50:31,030
with TTS a and it's

1229
00:50:34,110 --> 00:50:32,380
because you know they grew up with

1230
00:50:36,270 --> 00:50:34,120
blink-182 man you know and it's like

1231
00:50:38,970 --> 00:50:36,280
that's cool one of my favorite bands of

1232
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:38,980
all time is now like you know yeah mom

1233
00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:41,170
is now you know doing aliens and UFO

1234
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:44,260
stuff you know so yeah that's that's one

1235
00:50:48,750 --> 00:50:46,810
thing they got going for him but but so

1236
00:50:51,930 --> 00:50:48,760
I guess on the on the topic of flying

1237
00:50:54,030 --> 00:50:51,940
saucers man I have to know how was it

1238
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:54,040
interviewing Stan Friedman

1239
00:50:59,460 --> 00:50:57,760
oh man yes so that was that was a big

1240
00:51:01,950 --> 00:50:59,470
catch for me I'm not gonna lie I was

1241
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:01,960
nervous as [\h__\h] and like I've been you

1242
00:51:07,860 --> 00:51:05,050
know I've talked to a lot of the I guess

1243
00:51:10,590 --> 00:51:07,870
whatever heavy hitters in the field um

1244
00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:10,600
but that was one where I honestly I had

1245
00:51:14,220 --> 00:51:12,460
no idea what to ask that guy he's been

1246
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:14,230
asked every question you could possibly

1247
00:51:20,010 --> 00:51:17,530
think of and his his vocabulary and the

1248
00:51:23,730 --> 00:51:20,020
way his mind works is just it's beyond

1249
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:23,740
me like I'm a I'm just a UFO researcher

1250
00:51:28,770 --> 00:51:25,810
who listens to book what a did to do

1251
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:28,780
every now and again but that that was um

1252
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:31,330
episode 50 for me on my podcast and I

1253
00:51:35,310 --> 00:51:32,800
really wanted to do something special

1254
00:51:37,890 --> 00:51:35,320
and around that time is when Stan

1255
00:51:40,170 --> 00:51:37,900
Friedman decided he was done he wanted

1256
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:40,180
to retire from the you know the lecture

1257
00:51:44,550 --> 00:51:42,250
circuit and the dude is lectured in

1258
00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:44,560
every country every continent every city

1259
00:51:51,450 --> 00:51:46,360
you can think of every province in

1260
00:51:53,220 --> 00:51:51,460
Canada it's insane so I I spent in weeks

1261
00:51:55,020 --> 00:51:53,230
and weeks trying to compile like a list

1262
00:51:57,660 --> 00:51:55,030
of questions asked and then eventually I

1263
00:51:59,580 --> 00:51:57,670
was just like [\h__\h] it like just get him

1264
00:52:02,610 --> 00:51:59,590
on and see what happens

1265
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:02,620
so I call him up and he answers the

1266
00:52:08,730 --> 00:52:05,650
phone it is like hey let's do this

1267
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:08,740
just like that immediately put me at

1268
00:52:13,980 --> 00:52:11,170
ease I'm like oh my god he's he's just a

1269
00:52:16,830 --> 00:52:13,990
normal dude and he's just excited to

1270
00:52:19,950 --> 00:52:16,840
talk to me as I was to him and we

1271
00:52:22,980 --> 00:52:19,960
literally just ran through 50 years of

1272
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:22,990
his career and how he got into it what

1273
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:24,640
he found most interesting where he

1274
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:27,130
thought it was heading and I just let

1275
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:29,170
him talk I think when I was editing I

1276
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:32,110
had maybe like 10 words total in like a

1277
00:52:36,690 --> 00:52:34,720
two and a half hour conversation so yeah

1278
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:36,700
I love you that was so that was a great

1279
00:52:42,510 --> 00:52:40,030
one dude thank you it was amazing it it

1280
00:52:43,700 --> 00:52:42,520
really if you didn't have respect for

1281
00:52:44,990 --> 00:52:43,710
him before that I

1282
00:52:47,780 --> 00:52:45,000
know how you could come out the other

1283
00:52:50,270 --> 00:52:47,790
side not thinking this dude changed all

1284
00:52:53,390 --> 00:52:50,280
of our lives and like he paved the way

1285
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:53,400
he was the original ufologist it's it's

1286
00:52:58,490 --> 00:52:55,920
insane to think that you know we can't

1287
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,500
just call him up anymore and and we

1288
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:00,480
won't see more books by him but I

1289
00:53:04,430 --> 00:53:02,730
treasure everything he's written I

1290
00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:04,440
respect the hell out of the guy as a

1291
00:53:09,770 --> 00:53:06,780
human being first and foremost as a UFO

1292
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:09,780
researcher second and it was quite an

1293
00:53:14,329 --> 00:53:12,089
honor I have to admit man yeah that's

1294
00:53:17,930 --> 00:53:14,339
gotta be awesome dude so I mean the

1295
00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:17,940
closest that we ever got was we got to

1296
00:53:23,420 --> 00:53:20,790
interview uh her name was Joanne you

1297
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:23,430
incur right okay she's the the head

1298
00:53:29,540 --> 00:53:25,770
archivist in New Brunswick the Ohio

1299
00:53:32,030 --> 00:53:29,550
archive that Stanton you know donated

1300
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:32,040
all of his stuff all his research

1301
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:34,050
everything that was in his house he

1302
00:53:38,180 --> 00:53:36,089
donated to them and she's the head

1303
00:53:40,820 --> 00:53:38,190
archivist over there and she had some

1304
00:53:44,780 --> 00:53:40,830
pretty pretty awesome stories about it

1305
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:44,790
as well I can imagine yeah yeah yeah she

1306
00:53:49,370 --> 00:53:46,410
was like she was like you know there's

1307
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:49,380
so many things in his in his collection

1308
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:53,010
like there's vials of liquid and like

1309
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:55,890
powder like all kinds of stuff that we

1310
00:54:01,280 --> 00:53:57,839
don't really know what to do with them

1311
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:01,290
or like should we open them you know but

1312
00:54:04,730 --> 00:54:04,170
yeah she said should we smoke it I don't

1313
00:54:08,660 --> 00:54:04,740
know

1314
00:54:11,589 --> 00:54:08,670
so when that space weed man if anybody

1315
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:11,599
that's noisy you stand here bro

1316
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:14,330
absolutely I I could see him in like

1317
00:54:21,410 --> 00:54:20,250
Carl Sagan kickin back a joiner - yeah I

1318
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:21,420
bet they did they went to college

1319
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:23,970
together right yeah yeah they debated

1320
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:26,130
together and like they had a huge

1321
00:54:31,070 --> 00:54:28,650
respect for one another so again like

1322
00:54:34,849 --> 00:54:31,080
Stanton you can say what you want about

1323
00:54:37,310 --> 00:54:34,859
the guy he was very Pro et but he was

1324
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:37,320
very well respected by his peers and

1325
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:40,050
although he will always be remembered as

1326
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:41,760
he follow just like he was a physicist

1327
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:44,970
first and foremost and that's an amazing

1328
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:47,970
feat and a life you know well lived in

1329
00:54:54,140 --> 00:54:51,810
my opinion that's all that's awesome we

1330
00:54:55,620 --> 00:54:54,150
got a follow up with Joanna cuz I mean

1331
00:54:57,570 --> 00:54:55,630
she did tell us about three

1332
00:55:01,110 --> 00:54:57,580
on Fridays where they would go through

1333
00:55:03,420 --> 00:55:01,120
all the archives and document

1334
00:55:05,490 --> 00:55:03,430
samples and and she said they do have a

1335
00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:05,500
little piece of metal that came in an

1336
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:07,900
envelope here's here's a piece from the

1337
00:55:11,460 --> 00:55:09,280
Roswell crash was it the Roswell crash

1338
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:11,470
yeah okay the Roswell yeah I don't know

1339
00:55:17,850 --> 00:55:13,570
on mysteries decoded y'all y'all went

1340
00:55:20,220 --> 00:55:17,860
out to the crash site into some some

1341
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:20,230
metal I have listened to the that

1342
00:55:23,790 --> 00:55:21,610
episode when you talk about it but you

1343
00:55:26,130 --> 00:55:23,800
know maybe for our viewers that don't

1344
00:55:29,610 --> 00:55:26,140
know or listeners that don't know y'all

1345
00:55:31,230 --> 00:55:29,620
didn't have some something that came

1346
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:31,240
back from from testing it right y'all

1347
00:55:36,780 --> 00:55:33,370
had some answers yeah so this is

1348
00:55:38,670 --> 00:55:36,790
actually an ongoing investigation you

1349
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:38,680
know it did not end with the the

1350
00:55:43,230 --> 00:55:40,690
television special that was a that was

1351
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:43,240
fun I mean I was contacted out of the

1352
00:55:49,230 --> 00:55:46,570
blue and they it was television CW

1353
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:49,240
network was like we want to go weren't

1354
00:55:52,860 --> 00:55:51,010
we're rebooting Rox well you know the

1355
00:55:54,750 --> 00:55:52,870
fictional television show from the 90s

1356
00:55:56,790 --> 00:55:54,760
was like I school I remember that show

1357
00:55:58,980 --> 00:55:56,800
like yeah we're gonna do it the

1358
00:56:00,750 --> 00:55:58,990
modern-day version but we want to like

1359
00:56:02,430 --> 00:56:00,760
inform the public of what actually

1360
00:56:04,500 --> 00:56:02,440
happened in Roswell so like we want to

1361
00:56:07,290 --> 00:56:04,510
go out and investigate it I was like all

1362
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:07,300
right like I guess I don't know what we

1363
00:56:12,780 --> 00:56:09,610
could discover after all this time but

1364
00:56:16,140 --> 00:56:12,790
yeah sure I'll go out there and I was

1365
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:16,150
very surprised like we actually found

1366
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:18,130
new evidence and that came in the form

1367
00:56:23,340 --> 00:56:21,730
of Frank Imbler he's a a geologist out

1368
00:56:25,350 --> 00:56:23,350
in Roswell he works at the Military

1369
00:56:27,780 --> 00:56:25,360
Institute and the dude for like the past

1370
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:27,790
couple years has been out there digging

1371
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:29,890
at the crash site which is a story in

1372
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:32,110
itself of how he found it he was able to

1373
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:34,690
use like all these crazy aerial

1374
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:36,730
satellite stuff too like triangulate the

1375
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:39,250
area according to like certain bushes in

1376
00:56:46,020 --> 00:56:41,730
the desert it's it's [\h__\h] crazy oh

1377
00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:46,030
yeah yeah it's crazy I don't know how he

1378
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:48,310
did it but he what he did was he went

1379
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:50,170
out to the site and he just started

1380
00:56:54,780 --> 00:56:52,690
digging and him and his son free almost

1381
00:56:57,060 --> 00:56:54,790
a few years were out there digging like

1382
00:56:59,490 --> 00:56:57,070
every weekend and they actually found

1383
00:57:02,160 --> 00:56:59,500
medals out there which if you guys if

1384
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:02,170
you actually go out there it's like a

1385
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:04,480
hundred miles from anything any form of

1386
00:57:10,339 --> 00:57:07,170
life any nothing out there

1387
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:10,349
thing not a bird not a bug nothing so

1388
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:13,440
when we discovered that he found like

1389
00:57:18,609 --> 00:57:15,930
metal alloys out there well what the

1390
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:18,619
hell this this has to be the place and

1391
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:22,559
the way he like discovered it is from

1392
00:57:27,470 --> 00:57:25,049
years and years of like erosion and like

1393
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:27,480
water coming through those areas the

1394
00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:30,450
Arroyo is out there that stuff would go

1395
00:57:36,410 --> 00:57:33,089
down it would be like under the surface

1396
00:57:38,059 --> 00:57:36,420
and if the guys out there were the

1397
00:57:40,250 --> 00:57:38,069
military people picked everything up

1398
00:57:42,980 --> 00:57:40,260
that was on the surface they did not get

1399
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:42,990
everything so I'm like yeah I'm all in

1400
00:57:48,260 --> 00:57:46,319
with that so he found metals we went to

1401
00:57:50,510 --> 00:57:48,270
Razvi we talked to him he showed us

1402
00:57:53,450 --> 00:57:50,520
military buttons he found out there too

1403
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:53,460
that they weren't carbon dated back to

1404
00:57:58,099 --> 00:57:55,890
the forties so what the hell were

1405
00:57:59,900 --> 00:57:58,109
military buttons doing out there if they

1406
00:58:02,240 --> 00:57:59,910
weren't like on their hands and knees

1407
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:02,250
picking [\h__\h] up and like you know maybe

1408
00:58:10,819 --> 00:58:05,760
a button or two fell off so back to the

1409
00:58:13,250 --> 00:58:10,829
metals we go to a aerospace lab in

1410
00:58:15,859 --> 00:58:13,260
California and we're talking like these

1411
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:15,869
dudes work with some pretty well known

1412
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:19,770
aerospace people on almost a daily basis

1413
00:58:24,589 --> 00:58:21,930
and we're we didn't tell them what we're

1414
00:58:26,839 --> 00:58:24,599
doing we did not say we think we have

1415
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:26,849
UFO pieces but you test them because you

1416
00:58:30,799 --> 00:58:29,010
try that with these labs and they want

1417
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:30,809
nothing to do with you like they don't

1418
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:33,210
want that on their shoulders so like we

1419
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:35,280
tried like five labs before we smartened

1420
00:58:38,809 --> 00:58:37,049
up and we're like maybe we shouldn't

1421
00:58:43,579 --> 00:58:38,819
mention these could possibly be from a

1422
00:58:46,220 --> 00:58:43,589
UFO so we we got him tested at the lab

1423
00:58:49,460 --> 00:58:46,230
and our results were actually pretty

1424
00:58:53,089 --> 00:58:49,470
interesting now on the TV show it was

1425
00:58:56,539 --> 00:58:53,099
kind of a wah-wah-wah like we we they're

1426
00:59:00,770 --> 00:58:56,549
just normal metals or whatever but what

1427
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:00,780
actually happened is these things were

1428
00:59:05,299 --> 00:59:03,119
tested before in Canada and it came back

1429
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:05,309
like totally off the charts

1430
00:59:09,890 --> 00:59:07,530
like alien like this stuff cannot be

1431
00:59:12,410 --> 00:59:09,900
from here and we were like okay let's

1432
00:59:14,839 --> 00:59:12,420
let's get it tested to make sure like

1433
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:14,849
they didn't screw anything up lo and

1434
00:59:20,250 --> 00:59:18,089
behold they really screwed up and we

1435
00:59:25,470 --> 00:59:20,260
were able to determine that

1436
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:25,480
yes the metals were quite possibly from

1437
00:59:32,340 --> 00:59:29,890
Earth but the way the ratios were in

1438
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:32,350
terms of like the actual alloys within

1439
00:59:37,950 --> 00:59:37,210
it definitely were from something in

1440
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:37,960
space

1441
00:59:45,570 --> 00:59:42,310
in composition that you would only put

1442
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:45,580
on the most sophisticated shuttles out

1443
00:59:52,109 --> 00:59:49,210
there so what the hell with these metals

1444
00:59:54,300 --> 00:59:52,119
doing out in the desert buried under

1445
00:59:58,020 --> 00:59:54,310
like feet of ground that had been there

1446
00:59:59,970 --> 00:59:58,030
for almost 50 years so I'm not saying it

1447
01:00:02,640 --> 00:59:59,980
was aliens but like yes there was some

1448
01:00:04,830 --> 01:00:02,650
super high-tech [\h__\h] metal going on

1449
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:04,840
in that desert that had been there for a

1450
01:00:09,090 --> 01:00:06,910
really long time so maybe it was some

1451
01:00:11,070 --> 01:00:09,100
top-secret thing I mean you look back at

1452
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:11,080
the 40's and Roswell happen we were just

1453
01:00:16,140 --> 01:00:13,570
starting the early stages of the space

1454
01:00:18,330 --> 01:00:16,150
program so could it have been ours yeah

1455
01:00:21,420 --> 01:00:18,340
is that worth a cover-up for 50 years

1456
01:00:23,940 --> 01:00:21,430
maybe or or it was aliens I don't know

1457
01:00:25,470 --> 01:00:23,950
but the tests are ongoing we still have

1458
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:25,480
a lot of different tests to do with the

1459
01:00:30,570 --> 01:00:28,570
metals and I I should have some exciting

1460
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:30,580
news about some follow up with that

1461
01:00:35,310 --> 01:00:32,890
pretty soon that's cool that's awesome

1462
01:00:39,210 --> 01:00:35,320
dude have you heard any any stories

1463
01:00:41,849 --> 01:00:39,220
about how I don't know if it was it us

1464
01:00:45,150 --> 01:00:41,859
or maybe like the maybe the Russians or

1465
01:00:48,570 --> 01:00:45,160
whatever maybe had like sent you know a

1466
01:00:51,420 --> 01:00:48,580
man-made craft but it had like like

1467
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:51,430
children inside of it like that had to

1468
01:00:55,980 --> 01:00:53,710
form these and things like that and like

1469
01:00:57,900 --> 01:00:55,990
that's why they didn't want to say

1470
01:01:00,330 --> 01:00:57,910
anything because they don't want that

1471
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:00,340
getting out which is worse than covering

1472
01:01:03,930 --> 01:01:02,650
up aliens like I think it's way worse to

1473
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:03,940
be like yeah we just got some like

1474
01:01:08,190 --> 01:01:06,010
special needs kids and put them in a

1475
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:08,200
spacecraft and shot it across you know

1476
01:01:14,820 --> 01:01:12,330
the world yeah so I'd heard those rumors

1477
01:01:17,490 --> 01:01:14,830
you know sort of whispers in the UFO

1478
01:01:19,410 --> 01:01:17,500
field and I know Nick Redfern is written

1479
01:01:22,890 --> 01:01:19,420
a book all about that that theory as

1480
01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:22,900
well but I will tell you this when we

1481
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:25,119
were in Roswell you know we we were just

1482
01:01:29,070 --> 01:01:27,280
kind of chilling and we have a camera

1483
01:01:31,349 --> 01:01:29,080
guys with us so of course everyone in

1484
01:01:33,290 --> 01:01:31,359
town the locals what they want to know

1485
01:01:35,780 --> 01:01:33,300
what the hell you're doing in Roswell

1486
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:35,790
and usually they assume you're doing

1487
01:01:40,010 --> 01:01:38,010
something with the crash or alias

1488
01:01:42,290 --> 01:01:40,020
because why else would you be in the

1489
01:01:44,570 --> 01:01:42,300
middle of Roswell yeah well we're doing

1490
01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:44,580
a documentary on Road Runners yeah right

1491
01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:47,880
well the same dude that is so funny you

1492
01:01:50,570 --> 01:01:48,480
said that

1493
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:50,580
so our cameraman didn't want to tell

1494
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:52,650
them what we're doing and he literally

1495
01:02:00,830 --> 01:01:54,690
goes we're doing a documentary on

1496
01:02:03,350 --> 01:02:00,840
groundwater I was like oh he's like so

1497
01:02:05,540 --> 01:02:03,360
nothing with UFOs and they were like now

1498
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:05,550
but like what do you know about that

1499
01:02:09,530 --> 01:02:07,170
just curious what do you know cuz we

1500
01:02:11,660 --> 01:02:09,540
wanted to hear from locals and like not

1501
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:11,670
on camera we wanted to hear it like raw

1502
01:02:18,290 --> 01:02:14,160
vulnerable as they can be and this guy

1503
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:18,300
goes oh my my grandfather worked at at

1504
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:21,690
the base Roswell Army Airfield and yeah

1505
01:02:26,930 --> 01:02:23,970
I totally know what it was like oh

1506
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:26,940
really well tell us and he went on to

1507
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:30,240
tell us that it was a top-secret project

1508
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:32,970
early space program where we were

1509
01:02:39,020 --> 01:02:36,450
sending up children in high-altitude

1510
01:02:40,850 --> 01:02:39,030
balloons to see how far they could get

1511
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:40,860
in the atmosphere before you know their

1512
01:02:46,910 --> 01:02:43,650
[\h__\h] heads exploded or something damn

1513
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:46,920
yeah so we should send dogs in my right

1514
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:50,730
[\h__\h] brady's so he thinks this guy

1515
01:02:56,110 --> 01:02:53,130
thinks it was us not the Russians not

1516
01:03:00,290 --> 01:02:56,120
the Germans that we were doing this and

1517
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:00,300
if you know what it kind of clicked when

1518
01:03:03,260 --> 01:03:02,010
I was in Roswell hearing the story we

1519
01:03:05,330 --> 01:03:03,270
went to the Roswell Daily Record

1520
01:03:08,690 --> 01:03:05,340
newspaper who broke the original story

1521
01:03:10,970 --> 01:03:08,700
we heard from the original sources their

1522
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:10,980
families about what headline they were

1523
01:03:15,140 --> 01:03:13,530
told to put in the newspaper we went to

1524
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:15,150
Frank and we talked about what he'd

1525
01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:17,010
found with the medals we talked to all

1526
01:03:21,890 --> 01:03:19,710
these locals and like all these stories

1527
01:03:26,060 --> 01:03:21,900
are spinning around in my head and I'm

1528
01:03:27,860 --> 01:03:26,070
like holy [\h__\h] this human experiment

1529
01:03:30,140 --> 01:03:27,870
thing makes so much more sense it

1530
01:03:32,030 --> 01:03:30,150
explains the bodies that were found why

1531
01:03:33,890 --> 01:03:32,040
they looked deformed because like you

1532
01:03:36,500 --> 01:03:33,900
said a lot of people think they used

1533
01:03:39,170 --> 01:03:36,510
special needs children who were kind of

1534
01:03:41,660 --> 01:03:39,180
out casted and nobody would know they

1535
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:41,670
were missing or that that you know that

1536
01:03:45,380 --> 01:03:42,690
they'd been killed

1537
01:03:47,089 --> 01:03:45,390
so maybe those were the bodies that were

1538
01:03:51,469 --> 01:03:47,099
found why they needed children

1539
01:03:53,509 --> 01:03:51,479
caskets the Roswell funeral home they

1540
01:03:55,819 --> 01:03:53,519
were they asked do you have child-sized

1541
01:03:57,229 --> 01:03:55,829
caskets guys like what no it was like

1542
01:04:02,299 --> 01:03:57,239
all right well we need four of them like

1543
01:04:03,499 --> 01:04:02,309
immediately it explains why the original

1544
01:04:05,299 --> 01:04:03,509
story was it was a weather balloon

1545
01:04:07,489 --> 01:04:05,309
because it actually was a sort of

1546
01:04:11,239 --> 01:04:07,499
top-secret high-altitude balloon that

1547
01:04:13,999 --> 01:04:11,249
they were using so the human side of the

1548
01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:14,009
Roswell case is extremely disturbing and

1549
01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:16,710
the more and more I look at it I'm kind

1550
01:04:22,549 --> 01:04:19,920
of like it actually makes some sense and

1551
01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:22,559
that that's [\h__\h] terrifying like you

1552
01:04:26,690 --> 01:04:24,720
said that's more scary than aliens

1553
01:04:29,180 --> 01:04:26,700
crushing on our planet for using our own

1554
01:04:30,979 --> 01:04:29,190
people to do these experiments and then

1555
01:04:32,420 --> 01:04:30,989
we're gonna let the public say yeah yeah

1556
01:04:34,460 --> 01:04:32,430
look they let them go with the aliens

1557
01:04:36,890 --> 01:04:34,470
story let them go with that and we'll

1558
01:04:38,059 --> 01:04:36,900
continue to build our space program yeah

1559
01:04:41,660 --> 01:04:38,069
black-budget

1560
01:04:43,130 --> 01:04:41,670
well I wonder like what does happen to

1561
01:04:45,019 --> 01:04:43,140
the human body when it goes in a really

1562
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:45,029
high altitude does this like your body

1563
01:04:49,069 --> 01:04:47,130
bloated some like is there a reason why

1564
01:04:51,499 --> 01:04:49,079
the heads were bigger you know all right

1565
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:51,509
well wonder what happens to a human body

1566
01:04:56,900 --> 01:04:54,690
yeah high altitude I think only a few

1567
01:05:03,259 --> 01:04:56,910
people really know man and they're long

1568
01:05:07,339 --> 01:05:03,269
gone by this point yeah oh that's creepy

1569
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:07,349
I don't know about yeah no I mean it is

1570
01:05:11,479 --> 01:05:09,450
a secret but I think it's no secret that

1571
01:05:14,359 --> 01:05:11,489
you know our government definitely has

1572
01:05:17,209 --> 01:05:14,369
tested on people and you know it's it's

1573
01:05:19,219 --> 01:05:17,219
that's that's kind of what they do yeah

1574
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:19,229
I feel like that has a lot to do with

1575
01:05:25,519 --> 01:05:22,170
most of this secrecy stuff a lot more

1576
01:05:28,940 --> 01:05:25,529
than then you know maybe the alien UFO

1577
01:05:32,650 --> 01:05:28,950
element it's just what they're doing to

1578
01:05:34,969 --> 01:05:32,660
them their own people yeah yeah man and

1579
01:05:36,709 --> 01:05:34,979
didn't like there's a scientist in China

1580
01:05:39,729 --> 01:05:36,719
that just got like the okay to start

1581
01:05:44,180 --> 01:05:39,739
doing animal and human DNA hybridization

1582
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:44,190
projects yeah no thank you that's that's

1583
01:05:50,339 --> 01:05:47,410
not Oh China

1584
01:05:53,999 --> 01:05:50,349
Oh China I love you everything

1585
01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:54,009
everything we own is made there I know

1586
01:05:59,819 --> 01:05:57,039
but on the show on the topic of TV shows

1587
01:06:01,650 --> 01:05:59,829
man are you are you excited for the the

1588
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:01,660
next blue book to come out dude oh

1589
01:06:08,099 --> 01:06:04,930
absolutely I mean I'm a huge Hynek fan I

1590
01:06:11,130 --> 01:06:08,109
mean he's like my hero I love the first

1591
01:06:13,079 --> 01:06:11,140
season look I mean everyone's ragging on

1592
01:06:15,390 --> 01:06:13,089
it cuz it's total fiction and like

1593
01:06:17,789 --> 01:06:15,400
they're mixing cases and like it's

1594
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:17,799
inaccurate it's a TV show it's not a

1595
01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:19,450
documentary that's what I tell people

1596
01:06:24,589 --> 01:06:22,240
you know watching the teaser for the new

1597
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:24,599
season they're doing Roswell area 51

1598
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:27,250
MKULTRA they're just like everything

1599
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:29,170
throw the baby in with the bathwater and

1600
01:06:32,279 --> 01:06:30,250
I'm all oh man

1601
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:32,289
like Lex - you excited for it - dude

1602
01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:33,849
yeah cuz I mean you gotta know it's just

1603
01:06:38,759 --> 01:06:36,609
it's fiction yes it's coming out on the

1604
01:06:41,579 --> 01:06:38,769
History Channel but I mean they're kind

1605
01:06:43,799 --> 01:06:41,589
of the alien channel now but yeah it's

1606
01:06:45,420 --> 01:06:43,809
like dude you know it's they're not like

1607
01:06:47,309 --> 01:06:45,430
they haven't told you the truth before

1608
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:47,319
it's not gonna come out on a on a

1609
01:06:52,859 --> 01:06:49,210
History Channel TV show like you'd

1610
01:06:55,380 --> 01:06:52,869
expect that dude it's so funny it's like

1611
01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:55,390
I remember seeing the meme where it's

1612
01:06:59,789 --> 01:06:57,190
like here's History Channel during the

1613
01:07:02,130 --> 01:06:59,799
day Egyptians built the pyramids here's

1614
01:07:08,539 --> 01:07:02,140
here's History Channel at 10:00 p.m. at

1615
01:07:11,220 --> 01:07:08,549
night pyramids like taken off into space

1616
01:07:14,099 --> 01:07:11,230
yeah that's pretty much it that's pretty

1617
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:14,109
much it I have another one I haven't

1618
01:07:18,299 --> 01:07:17,170
seen yet is a Hellyer - man that that

1619
01:07:21,059 --> 01:07:18,309
looks like it's gonna be pretty awesome

1620
01:07:24,690 --> 01:07:21,069
because the first yeah first season was

1621
01:07:27,930 --> 01:07:24,700
great yeah so I mean those dudes over it

1622
01:07:29,460 --> 01:07:27,940
planet weird they're they're huge heroes

1623
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:29,470
of mine I love everything they do

1624
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:31,210
they're the kind of people who are like

1625
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:33,490
not set in their ways like what I'm

1626
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:35,170
dealing with these UFOs what I'm dealing

1627
01:07:39,150 --> 01:07:37,210
with is ghosts it's like no let's see

1628
01:07:41,190 --> 01:07:39,160
what else it could be and this whole

1629
01:07:43,620 --> 01:07:41,200
Helier thing for any of your listeners

1630
01:07:45,059 --> 01:07:43,630
who don't know what it is I can't really

1631
01:07:47,579 --> 01:07:45,069
explain it because I don't think they

1632
01:07:49,499 --> 01:07:47,589
even know what the hell is going on yeah

1633
01:07:51,930 --> 01:07:49,509
it started with these cryptic emails

1634
01:07:54,329 --> 01:07:51,940
about a dude being terrorized by goblins

1635
01:07:57,779 --> 01:07:54,339
in Kentucky so right there you're like

1636
01:07:59,549 --> 01:07:57,789
what I want to see that yeah and it just

1637
01:08:00,769 --> 01:07:59,559
goes down every Avenue and rabbit hole

1638
01:08:02,630 --> 01:08:00,779
you can think of

1639
01:08:05,809 --> 01:08:02,640
they just dropped their season - I've

1640
01:08:09,469 --> 01:08:05,819
got Greg Newkirk coming on my show this

1641
01:08:11,239 --> 01:08:09,479
week to talk about it and what you know

1642
01:08:12,739 --> 01:08:11,249
what he discovered and kind of where

1643
01:08:15,259 --> 01:08:12,749
where they're left in their

1644
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:15,269
investigation and it's crazy it's like

1645
01:08:19,999 --> 01:08:17,489
this breadcrumb trail of just mystery

1646
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:20,009
and weird [\h__\h] and everything you could

1647
01:08:25,579 --> 01:08:22,170
possibly think of in this paranormal

1648
01:08:27,859 --> 01:08:25,589
weird world we live in so I definitely

1649
01:08:30,019 --> 01:08:27,869
suggest people check out Helier yeah

1650
01:08:33,289 --> 01:08:30,029
it's all over it's like number one on

1651
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,299
Amazon Prime yeah I'm pretty excited

1652
01:08:36,829 --> 01:08:35,040
about it yeah they were when they

1653
01:08:39,109 --> 01:08:36,839
started talking about you know like just

1654
01:08:40,849 --> 01:08:39,119
the caves and like the Brown Mountain

1655
01:08:42,589 --> 01:08:40,859
lights and all the stuff they were

1656
01:08:44,059 --> 01:08:42,599
seeing you know here in Texas we have

1657
01:08:46,609 --> 01:08:44,069
the Marfa lights have you ever heard of

1658
01:08:50,059 --> 01:08:46,619
the Marfa lights oh absolutely yeah yeah

1659
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:50,069
dude I mean you know it's it's still you

1660
01:08:54,589 --> 01:08:53,040
know up in the air like nobody nobody

1661
01:08:56,089 --> 01:08:54,599
really knows I mean there's been like

1662
01:08:58,299 --> 01:08:56,099
teams of scientists that have gone out

1663
01:09:01,640 --> 01:08:58,309
there and they're like yeah it's cars

1664
01:09:03,859 --> 01:09:01,650
it's like we're these these lights are

1665
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:03,869
being seen you know like it's just it's

1666
01:09:07,849 --> 01:09:05,489
kind of crazy and they and they occur

1667
01:09:10,970 --> 01:09:07,859
like around the same time almost every

1668
01:09:13,609 --> 01:09:10,980
night and you know it's like I've seen

1669
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:13,619
them and it's ball lightning it's it's

1670
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:16,290
cars it's all those are Chinese lanterns

1671
01:09:19,220 --> 01:09:17,520
like somebody's up there lighting

1672
01:09:21,769 --> 01:09:19,230
Chinese lanterns every single night

1673
01:09:24,829 --> 01:09:21,779
you're right you know that's that's like

1674
01:09:28,490 --> 01:09:24,839
a dedicated prank right there exactly

1675
01:09:31,249 --> 01:09:28,500
exactly yeah yep let's get out there and

1676
01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:31,259
like those Chinese lantern hell no get

1677
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:33,359
out of here with that man yeah oh yeah

1678
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:36,210
nobody knows what that is man but but

1679
01:09:40,910 --> 01:09:38,730
yeah that's cool little uh Texas

1680
01:09:43,549 --> 01:09:40,920
phenomenon that we got you ever know you

1681
01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:43,559
guys got some great statuses yeah I've

1682
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,609
been there a couple times traveling and

1683
01:09:50,450 --> 01:09:48,480
yeah I mean you guys got the

1684
01:09:52,609 --> 01:09:50,460
Stephenville case one of the biggest UFO

1685
01:09:56,030 --> 01:09:52,619
cases of all time I mean it

1686
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:56,040
aurora - my god perhaps one of the first

1687
01:10:01,339 --> 01:09:59,040
UFO crashes so I mean you guys when it

1688
01:10:03,709 --> 01:10:01,349
comes to UFOs you're you got it going on

1689
01:10:05,149 --> 01:10:03,719
for sure yeah there's a lot of cool

1690
01:10:07,010 --> 01:10:05,159
stuff out here man I mean there's just

1691
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:07,020
there's so much uh you know nothing

1692
01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:08,610
there's there yeah you know we got we

1693
01:10:12,049 --> 01:10:10,320
got big old cities but at the same time

1694
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:12,059
there's a lot of nothing out here so

1695
01:10:16,020 --> 01:10:13,450
well in that's where

1696
01:10:18,030 --> 01:10:16,030
it happens dude I mean I live in the

1697
01:10:20,610 --> 01:10:18,040
most populated city in America it's

1698
01:10:22,530 --> 01:10:20,620
gross it's dirty it's loud and light

1699
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:22,540
pollution you can't see [\h__\h]

1700
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:25,330
so like I'm I'm envious I'm not gonna

1701
01:10:29,910 --> 01:10:27,130
lie I'm envious that you can have an

1702
01:10:33,150 --> 01:10:29,920
open sky to search while I'm just

1703
01:10:36,810 --> 01:10:33,160
staring up it's smog and ten million

1704
01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:36,820
airplanes coming in and out of JFK yeah

1705
01:10:41,970 --> 01:10:39,910
yeah well bin lives next to the Austin

1706
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:41,980
Bergstrom International Airport so he's

1707
01:10:46,410 --> 01:10:44,170
constantly got [\h__\h] flying over his

1708
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:46,420
house good thing is you know like you

1709
01:10:50,910 --> 01:10:48,970
drive 30 minutes in any direction and if

1710
01:10:52,740 --> 01:10:50,920
there's nothing yeah and that's that's

1711
01:10:55,380 --> 01:10:52,750
pretty cool and some cities here are

1712
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:55,390
also starting to take on that the no

1713
01:10:59,640 --> 01:10:57,610
light pollution ordinance we're okay

1714
01:11:02,160 --> 01:10:59,650
your lights have to you know be like dim

1715
01:11:03,930 --> 01:11:02,170
lights so I'm pretty excited about that

1716
01:11:05,670 --> 01:11:03,940
happening so we can we can definitely

1717
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:05,680
you know keep your eyes on the sky dude

1718
01:11:10,770 --> 01:11:08,650
could you imagine man the the more sky

1719
01:11:12,450 --> 01:11:10,780
we see the better chance of seeing these

1720
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:12,460
things and everyone's always like I want

1721
01:11:16,980 --> 01:11:14,080
to see UFO I want to see you fo I'm like

1722
01:11:19,410 --> 01:11:16,990
alright go to Arizona go to New Mexico

1723
01:11:24,030 --> 01:11:19,420
go to Texas like this is not the place

1724
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:24,040
to be so yeah yeah man will do if ya if

1725
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:26,050
you're ever rolling through Texas man

1726
01:11:30,750 --> 01:11:28,330
and you want to have some barbecue and

1727
01:11:34,380 --> 01:11:30,760
look up at the skies bro you hit us up

1728
01:11:36,870 --> 01:11:34,390
yeah yeah that sounds like perfection

1729
01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:36,880
yeah we'll go chase some UFOs together

1730
01:11:43,730 --> 01:11:41,710
dude you know I am in I am in you guys

1731
01:11:46,410 --> 01:11:43,740
make some damn good tacos out there Oh

1732
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:46,420
some of the best some of the best dude

1733
01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:48,370
yeah we were out uh I was out intra

1734
01:11:54,150 --> 01:11:52,480
lingua and dude I mean the the sky out

1735
01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:54,160
there cuz there's nothing it's just

1736
01:11:59,460 --> 01:11:57,040
desert you know and and it's it's pretty

1737
01:12:01,710 --> 01:11:59,470
rough dude like it's it's pretty rough

1738
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:01,720
out there I'm like oh yeah yeah I'm I'm

1739
01:12:06,450 --> 01:12:04,090
uh I'm I'm drawn to the desert I

1740
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:06,460
absolutely love it

1741
01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:08,890
but man it's just gorgeous at nighttime

1742
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:10,960
it doesn't get any better than that man

1743
01:12:16,110 --> 01:12:13,510
yeah there's something about it I mean

1744
01:12:17,310 --> 01:12:16,120
even I'm I've been a city boy my whole

1745
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:17,320
life and

1746
01:12:22,410 --> 01:12:19,570
there's just something about the desert

1747
01:12:24,210 --> 01:12:22,420
that draws you in and I don't know what

1748
01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:24,220
it is I don't want to know what it is I

1749
01:12:28,170 --> 01:12:26,080
just know it's magical and it's where

1750
01:12:32,820 --> 01:12:28,180
these things are meant to happen I

1751
01:12:35,130 --> 01:12:32,830
really do believe that and I hope that

1752
01:12:38,970 --> 01:12:35,140
someday I can get out there again either

1753
01:12:42,180 --> 01:12:38,980
Roswell Texas and just enjoy it and like

1754
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:42,190
take it all in and and maybe see that

1755
01:12:47,340 --> 01:12:45,370
triangle I saw when I was 12 years old I

1756
01:12:51,770 --> 01:12:47,350
don't know man yeah you should try to

1757
01:12:58,230 --> 01:12:51,780
vector it and it yes Steven Greer style

1758
01:13:00,630 --> 01:12:58,240
yeah get some green lasers do you got a

1759
01:13:02,070 --> 01:13:00,640
green laser and and and do it he ran out

1760
01:13:05,580 --> 01:13:02,080
of batteries in like the first like

1761
01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:05,590
couple days [\h__\h] around with it mine

1762
01:13:10,110 --> 01:13:07,870
still works but yeah because I hate

1763
01:13:11,970 --> 01:13:10,120
using it to vector aliens dude I was

1764
01:13:13,070 --> 01:13:11,980
gonna say vectoring in aliens ain't

1765
01:13:19,470 --> 01:13:13,080
cheap

1766
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:19,480
no definitely not that's awesome

1767
01:13:23,820 --> 01:13:21,730
so did you are you are you running out

1768
01:13:28,050 --> 01:13:23,830
of time you bet to have to go and uh and

1769
01:13:31,260 --> 01:13:28,060
pick up the lady yeah yeah I'm the one

1770
01:13:34,050 --> 01:13:31,270
who's in charge of of the commuting here

1771
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:34,060
in New York City so yeah I mean y'all

1772
01:13:38,460 --> 01:13:35,920
got one of the best mass transit systems

1773
01:13:42,510 --> 01:13:38,470
like in the world don't you that is true

1774
01:13:45,230 --> 01:13:42,520
that is true it just uh it just it

1775
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:45,240
decides to break down and house dude I

1776
01:13:49,470 --> 01:13:47,530
don't know how many times I've heard it

1777
01:13:51,740 --> 01:13:49,480
tonight but it wakes me up like every

1778
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:51,750
half hour but I'm used to it by now

1779
01:13:56,430 --> 01:13:54,850
that's awesome man well bro thank you so

1780
01:13:57,930 --> 01:13:56,440
much for coming on the show yeah

1781
01:14:00,030 --> 01:13:57,940
definitely want to have you back again

1782
01:14:01,590 --> 01:14:00,040
and because I mean there's a million

1783
01:14:03,630 --> 01:14:01,600
more things I could ask you and talk to

1784
01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:03,640
you about oh my gosh I could talk for I

1785
01:14:08,130 --> 01:14:05,710
could talk for ten more hours but no

1786
01:14:10,620 --> 01:14:08,140
guys I know our conversations only begun

1787
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:10,630
so no thank you thank you so much for

1788
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:13,120
having me I I'm totally digging what you

1789
01:14:16,740 --> 01:14:15,970
guys are doing and we need all the help

1790
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:16,750
we can get

1791
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:19,120
so like let's do this again you got to

1792
01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:21,250
come on my show now the invitations

1793
01:14:27,900 --> 01:14:24,490
there and totally let's do it let's keep

1794
01:14:30,210 --> 01:14:27,910
let's keep searching the skies yes

1795
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:30,220
yes and again bro if you ever if you

1796
01:14:34,890 --> 01:14:32,050
ever come to Texas man hit us up and

1797
01:14:38,130 --> 01:14:34,900
we'll meet up and go do some cool [\h__\h] I

1798
01:14:39,930 --> 01:14:38,140
am in all right brother way man it was

1799
01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:39,940
good talking to you man and what we'll

1800
01:14:43,350 --> 01:14:42,310
talk to you next time in absolutely have

1801
01:14:45,060 --> 01:14:43,360
a great night guys

1802
01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:45,070
All Right see you man see you later dude

1803
01:14:50,220 --> 01:14:48,190
later sick well that was good stuff dude

1804
01:14:52,410 --> 01:14:50,230
that was so much fun that we finally got

1805
01:14:54,690 --> 01:14:52,420
to have him on the show I know man that

1806
01:14:55,860 --> 01:14:54,700
was so good yeah and I really did dude I

1807
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:55,870
mean I have like a you know a hundred

1808
01:14:59,340 --> 01:14:57,730
more questions well a hundred and three

1809
01:15:01,350 --> 01:14:59,350
more questions that you know I could

1810
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:01,360
totally ask him right now but you know

1811
01:15:05,790 --> 01:15:02,770
that just said just leaves it open for

1812
01:15:07,530 --> 01:15:05,800
the next one dude we gotta have him back

1813
01:15:08,970 --> 01:15:07,540
on our feet that would be awesome we can

1814
01:15:10,380 --> 01:15:08,980
go on his show - that'd be sick yeah

1815
01:15:13,530 --> 01:15:10,390
that would be sick dude maybe I can ask

1816
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:13,540
him like ninety-four questions like we

1817
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:15,850
ask him questions live him ask you ask

1818
01:15:22,590 --> 01:15:19,570
him questions on his podcast yes did we

1819
01:15:23,460 --> 01:15:22,600
just interview him again we don't know

1820
01:15:26,670 --> 01:15:23,470
how to be guest

1821
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:26,680
we only know how to be interviewees know

1822
01:15:31,350 --> 01:15:29,410
what I'd say dude it's like if you if

1823
01:15:35,820 --> 01:15:31,360
you try to like research us like yeah

1824
01:15:36,690 --> 01:15:35,830
we're to find people like so I see that

1825
01:15:43,050 --> 01:15:36,700
you like aliens

1826
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:43,060
I like aliens - yeah dude yeah but yeah

1827
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:44,410
cuz I mean the you know the dude does

1828
01:15:50,220 --> 01:15:47,890
film and movies and writes books and

1829
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:50,230
yeah all kinds of stuff we'll be like

1830
01:15:54,990 --> 01:15:52,690
yeah we have been we always think about

1831
01:15:57,690 --> 01:15:55,000
writing a book and you know what we

1832
01:16:00,180 --> 01:15:57,700
think it's gonna be awesome yeah the

1833
01:16:01,590 --> 01:16:00,190
thought is is there it's gonna be sick

1834
01:16:03,930 --> 01:16:01,600
yeah when we do write them I don't know

1835
01:16:05,670 --> 01:16:03,940
what we're gonna write about us - oh

1836
01:16:09,930 --> 01:16:05,680
okay you know we'll just write about us

1837
01:16:14,670 --> 01:16:09,940
okay our experience it all started June

1838
01:16:16,980 --> 01:16:14,680
of nineteen yeah yeah oh yeah dude but

1839
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:16,990
yeah dude I mean it was uh it was a lot

1840
01:16:21,660 --> 01:16:19,410
of fun I want to hear more stories I

1841
01:16:23,670 --> 01:16:21,670
want more people to start emailing us

1842
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:23,680
stories - I know guys

1843
01:16:28,770 --> 01:16:26,650
email us some stories man talk to your

1844
01:16:31,470 --> 01:16:28,780
friends if you hear anybody who's got a

1845
01:16:33,660 --> 01:16:31,480
story tell them to uh to email it to us

1846
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:33,670
and uh you know we'll tell the story on

1847
01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:34,690
the show man

1848
01:16:38,850 --> 01:16:37,120
or well have them on the podcast or you

1849
01:16:40,510 --> 01:16:38,860
can you can like email us and we'll

1850
01:16:42,220 --> 01:16:40,520
figure out a way where you could come

1851
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:42,230
leave a message and tell the story or

1852
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:44,090
they know whatever that something that

1853
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:47,120
become because that'd be pretty kick-ass

1854
01:16:50,980 --> 01:16:49,850
yeah I love those stories that that

1855
01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:50,990
hooded figure thing

1856
01:16:55,450 --> 01:16:53,840
yeah that's creepy that is so creepy and

1857
01:16:57,850 --> 01:16:55,460
that's like it's been happening a lot

1858
01:16:59,530 --> 01:16:57,860
like there's not just one story it's

1859
01:17:01,420 --> 01:16:59,540
been happening a lot not late maybe

1860
01:17:03,070 --> 01:17:01,430
lately but a lot more stories that I've

1861
01:17:05,290 --> 01:17:03,080
been listening to have have like a

1862
01:17:08,470 --> 01:17:05,300
hooded figure in it yeah which is really

1863
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:08,480
freaking creepy like a robed hooded dude

1864
01:17:12,340 --> 01:17:10,730
just in your house it does make me feel

1865
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:12,350
good to know though that if like you're

1866
01:17:15,340 --> 01:17:14,930
ever scared gonna be like uh-uh no not

1867
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:15,350
today

1868
01:17:21,310 --> 01:17:18,890
nut uh-huh and then go and like chase

1869
01:17:22,270 --> 01:17:21,320
after it and watch it stumble over

1870
01:17:29,470 --> 01:17:22,280
itself

1871
01:17:33,210 --> 01:17:29,480
he's like ow ow yeah maybe

1872
01:17:36,910 --> 01:17:33,220
so dude okay the owl thing right maybe

1873
01:17:38,650 --> 01:17:36,920
right that's what that burrito was don't

1874
01:17:41,970 --> 01:17:38,660
guys floor he's like burrito burrito

1875
01:17:45,610 --> 01:17:41,980
burrito yeah turned into a burrito yes

1876
01:17:47,380 --> 01:17:45,620
yeah totally I mean maybe they just like

1877
01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:47,390
see something in your mind that you that

1878
01:17:54,250 --> 01:17:49,490
they think you'd be okay with and huh

1879
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:54,260
alright this guy loves burritos yeah he

1880
01:18:00,100 --> 01:17:56,690
said it verbally - uh-huh that's crazy

1881
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:00,110
that is crazy like aliens dude I mean if

1882
01:18:04,030 --> 01:18:01,970
they've been studying us this long they

1883
01:18:06,340 --> 01:18:04,040
gotta know our language right I mean

1884
01:18:08,290 --> 01:18:06,350
they're just [\h__\h] with us yeah maybe

1885
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:08,300
wonder why he would say it in English -

1886
01:18:13,690 --> 01:18:10,610
I don't know they were maybe hated

1887
01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:13,700
English maybe he knew you know that were

1888
01:18:19,860 --> 01:18:16,490
in America this is a word mark burn

1889
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:19,870
marker Mike we're gonna talk English

1890
01:18:25,530 --> 01:18:22,250
don't talk American we're speaking

1891
01:18:28,780 --> 01:18:25,540
American here in America all right

1892
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:28,790
do you don't want to like kind of ask I

1893
01:18:33,550 --> 01:18:31,010
wonder if he had heard any or has

1894
01:18:36,250 --> 01:18:33,560
anybody submitted any stories or does he

1895
01:18:37,420 --> 01:18:36,260
know any famous UFO stories or alien

1896
01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:37,430
stories that happen in other other

1897
01:18:42,010 --> 01:18:40,640
countries besides like Australia and I

1898
01:18:44,350 --> 01:18:42,020
know I know a lot of them happened in

1899
01:18:45,730 --> 01:18:44,360
like North America or America

1900
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:45,740
you know north and south and and and

1901
01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:47,450
Canada and all yeah but like you don't

1902
01:18:52,660 --> 01:18:49,520
hear about anything in India a lot you

1903
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:52,670
know I think he submitted a FOIA request

1904
01:18:57,070 --> 01:18:54,290
for the

1905
01:19:01,240 --> 01:18:57,080
was it a event that happened in Pakistan

1906
01:19:03,190 --> 01:19:01,250
I think and I was gonna ask him that but

1907
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:03,200
we started running out of time okay

1908
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:05,450
but yeah we do I mean they they happen

1909
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:08,210
everywhere I mean so so just as of

1910
01:19:11,710 --> 01:19:09,890
recently right like our government

1911
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:11,720
started talking about you know releasing

1912
01:19:15,370 --> 01:19:13,040
all this information and blah blah blah

1913
01:19:17,590 --> 01:19:15,380
well we're the only country who hasn't

1914
01:19:19,690 --> 01:19:17,600
disclosed their information all the

1915
01:19:21,790 --> 01:19:19,700
other countries already have really far

1916
01:19:23,950 --> 01:19:21,800
it's open people talk about it openly

1917
01:19:25,930 --> 01:19:23,960
that's why it's not like a big deal

1918
01:19:28,210 --> 01:19:25,940
like anywhere else like this is just

1919
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:28,220
[\h__\h] people see all over the world and

1920
01:19:33,220 --> 01:19:30,410
it's like oh yeah it's those those

1921
01:19:35,820 --> 01:19:33,230
flying things again here in the United

1922
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:35,830
States so it's like this big cover-up

1923
01:19:42,430 --> 01:19:38,930
conspiracy Oh what was that I saw in the

1924
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:42,440
sky nobody knows but all the other world

1925
01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:43,850
governments have been like yeah dude

1926
01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:45,920
those are UFOs so for some reason it's

1927
01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:48,110
just America that's not dude yeah yeah I

1928
01:19:53,770 --> 01:19:50,450
mean Canada's disclosed it for a

1929
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:53,780
long-ass time Mexico it's huge dude I

1930
01:19:58,090 --> 01:19:56,330
mean like there's so a lot so many

1931
01:19:59,530 --> 01:19:58,100
things that happen like down in Mexico

1932
01:20:01,270 --> 01:19:59,540
so like I mean we're talking like just

1933
01:20:03,670 --> 01:20:01,280
right along the borders of both of us

1934
01:20:05,770 --> 01:20:03,680
you know both of us of the United States

1935
01:20:07,210 --> 01:20:05,780
you know both of these countries have

1936
01:20:09,250 --> 01:20:07,220
disclosed it and it's like not a big

1937
01:20:12,460 --> 01:20:09,260
deal to them and it's everywhere I mean

1938
01:20:14,350 --> 01:20:12,470
you know India to I mean like I've heard

1939
01:20:17,950 --> 01:20:14,360
I've heard all kinds of stuff all over

1940
01:20:19,150 --> 01:20:17,960
the world yeah dude okay so I I saw

1941
01:20:20,979 --> 01:20:19,160
something in the sky yesterday and I

1942
01:20:22,030 --> 01:20:20,989
filmed it well I want you to take a look

1943
01:20:26,860 --> 01:20:22,040
at it and see what we'll see what you

1944
01:20:33,700 --> 01:20:26,870
think let me see this well I see your

1945
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:33,710
big-ass finger that's pretty interesting

1946
01:20:38,380 --> 01:20:36,530
it was stationary in the sky that's

1947
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:38,390
pretty interesting first up first I'm

1948
01:20:42,820 --> 01:20:40,130
thinking it's like nope those number

1949
01:20:46,810 --> 01:20:42,830
balloons ah it looks like there's a zero

1950
01:20:51,820 --> 01:20:46,820
and maybe like a seven or two yeah well

1951
01:20:54,910 --> 01:20:51,830
yeah I mean if it's not swamp gas it's

1952
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:54,920
definitely a UFO right it's not yeah so

1953
01:20:59,560 --> 01:20:56,330
the weird thing is that the there was a

1954
01:21:01,450 --> 01:20:59,570
pretty good wind that day I mean this

1955
01:21:04,330 --> 01:21:01,460
was yeah this was yesterday yeah but the

1956
01:21:05,770 --> 01:21:04,340
thing it didn't it didn't ascend or

1957
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:05,780
descend it was just hanging out

1958
01:21:09,250 --> 01:21:07,610
guy that's cool there's another one

1959
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:09,260
actually really cool if you slide to the

1960
01:21:14,140 --> 01:21:10,850
left to the left there's another one

1961
01:21:20,830 --> 01:21:14,150
that's your dick that's cuz you slide to

1962
01:21:23,500 --> 01:21:20,840
the right yes that's her dude that was

1963
01:21:25,060 --> 01:21:23,510
your wiener all right

1964
01:21:32,860 --> 01:21:25,070
that's a nice wiener the freakin got you

1965
01:21:36,670 --> 01:21:32,870
dude yeah it's blurry it's got to be a

1966
01:21:37,930 --> 01:21:36,680
drone mm-hmm no dude that's I tried to

1967
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:37,940
be pretty pretty still

1968
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:39,530
that's actually pretty crazy looking

1969
01:21:43,660 --> 01:21:41,810
honestly I mean you guys out there

1970
01:21:46,060 --> 01:21:43,670
listening or pissed because you can't

1971
01:21:48,370 --> 01:21:46,070
see it and I'm just like oh yeah mmm

1972
01:21:50,410 --> 01:21:48,380
looks looks pretty interesting yeah but

1973
01:21:52,990 --> 01:21:50,420
uh yeah post it on the Facebook yeah

1974
01:21:56,350 --> 01:21:53,000
I'll see when people and we'll see all

1975
01:21:59,380 --> 01:21:56,360
the [\h__\h] people talk about it again

1976
01:22:02,710 --> 01:21:59,390
another blurry ass [\h__\h] cell phone

1977
01:22:07,060 --> 01:22:02,720
photo though dude that's this cool

1978
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:07,070
that's sick and that dude so I was a at

1979
01:22:11,980 --> 01:22:10,610
a bar on Friday night with Sam and he's

1980
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:11,990
were sitting at this picnic table and

1981
01:22:15,940 --> 01:22:13,970
he's looking out towards the sky I'm

1982
01:22:17,230 --> 01:22:15,950
looking towards the building so all of a

1983
01:22:19,480 --> 01:22:17,240
sudden we're having this chat and he

1984
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:19,490
goes oh my god nice I turn around

1985
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:21,050
immediately and I didn't see anything

1986
01:22:26,050 --> 01:22:23,570
but he said dude that was really weird I

1987
01:22:29,020 --> 01:22:26,060
just saw like you know a shooting star

1988
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:29,030
comes in really fast like bu he said it

1989
01:22:34,930 --> 01:22:31,730
was probably like start-finish it was

1990
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:34,940
really fast but it was a huge orange

1991
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:38,690
circle that didn't have like reflections

1992
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:40,850
coming off of it like huh or a trail or

1993
01:22:44,260 --> 01:22:41,840
anything like that he said it was a

1994
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:44,270
trail but it was just this big-ass

1995
01:22:49,210 --> 01:22:45,920
orange ball that just streaked across

1996
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:49,220
the sky but not all the way today so it

1997
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:51,890
just went like if you were to hold up

1998
01:22:55,090 --> 01:22:53,450
like a the length of a cell phone in

1999
01:22:57,100 --> 01:22:55,100
front of you that's how far it went and

2000
01:22:59,050 --> 01:22:57,110
then it just disappeared it was pretty

2001
01:23:00,160 --> 01:22:59,060
weird I was pretty awesome this pissed

2002
01:23:01,990 --> 01:23:00,170
that I didn't see it

2003
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:02,000
I like immediately went on his side of

2004
01:23:04,630 --> 01:23:03,410
the table just in case it happened again

2005
01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:04,640
right yeah yeah yeah

2006
01:23:08,410 --> 01:23:06,560
but dude to Z UFO sightings in one

2007
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:08,420
weekend that's pretty cool

2008
01:23:13,150 --> 01:23:10,370
it's uh it's pretty awesome it's pretty

2009
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:13,160
awesome oh yeah Dan what did I do

2010
01:23:18,939 --> 01:23:15,170
I was pretty lazy this weekend

2011
01:23:20,890 --> 01:23:18,949
unfortunately I didn't see any UFOs

2012
01:23:24,399 --> 01:23:20,900
man aren't you busy watching love after

2013
01:23:26,799 --> 01:23:24,409
lockup an old lady on TLC what what does

2014
01:23:31,239 --> 01:23:26,809
our would people use the worst show ever

2015
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:31,249
created it's about okay so it's about

2016
01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:33,650
it's about people who are in prison and

2017
01:23:37,569 --> 01:23:36,110
then like they find love outside of

2018
01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:37,579
prison and then whenever they get

2019
01:23:40,209 --> 01:23:39,440
released from prison they're like is

2020
01:23:42,279 --> 01:23:40,219
this gonna work

2021
01:23:44,199 --> 01:23:42,289
and it's like no because you were just

2022
01:23:46,029 --> 01:23:44,209
in prison and they were just using you

2023
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:46,039
for your money and like it always works

2024
01:23:50,799 --> 01:23:48,110
out that way and they're like it's it's

2025
01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:50,809
it's so terrible home the worst show

2026
01:23:57,489 --> 01:23:53,920
ever created um you ever see something

2027
01:24:00,160 --> 01:23:57,499
so terrible that like you just can't

2028
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:00,170
look away like yeah it's kind of one of

2029
01:24:03,250 --> 01:24:02,090
those things where like I yell at the TV

2030
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:03,260
yeah right

2031
01:24:09,549 --> 01:24:07,489
like I know I shouldn't be doing this

2032
01:24:13,089 --> 01:24:09,559
you're watching this I am completely

2033
01:24:16,810 --> 01:24:13,099
it's wasting my time right now right and

2034
01:24:20,169 --> 01:24:16,820
and I should be out looking for aliens

2035
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:20,179
yeah I I can't it like sucks me in yeah

2036
01:24:28,029 --> 01:24:24,650
I can't leave the couch oh no dude is

2037
01:24:30,339 --> 01:24:28,039
terrible yeah I had a show like that a

2038
01:24:31,509 --> 01:24:30,349
while back it wasn't it was I can't

2039
01:24:35,799 --> 01:24:31,519
remember the name of it but it was rager

2040
01:24:37,060 --> 01:24:35,809
no no I did try to watch that I couldn't

2041
01:24:39,870 --> 01:24:37,070
get into it I heard it was really good

2042
01:24:42,339 --> 01:24:39,880
show though I hear that you and it's not

2043
01:24:45,819 --> 01:24:42,349
I think he's for like smart people or

2044
01:24:48,129 --> 01:24:45,829
something yeah but I did was the show uh

2045
01:24:49,709 --> 01:24:48,139
it was about people going out in the

2046
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:49,719
middle of nowhere doing like a homestead

2047
01:24:54,609 --> 01:24:52,610
and yeah it was the weirdest thing like

2048
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:54,619
the family had like eight kids well they

2049
01:24:58,449 --> 01:24:57,050
all had different accents so like what

2050
01:25:00,580 --> 01:24:58,459
that doesn't make any sense like did you

2051
01:25:01,839 --> 01:25:00,590
grow up in a different place I think it

2052
01:25:03,669 --> 01:25:01,849
was all just actors and they put them

2053
01:25:05,199 --> 01:25:03,679
together and said they're a family and

2054
01:25:07,509 --> 01:25:05,209
they're really just dysfunctional and

2055
01:25:10,419 --> 01:25:07,519
just like the Alaskan bush people that

2056
01:25:12,009 --> 01:25:10,429
might have been but I don't have to look

2057
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:12,019
it up but yeah and I didn't have a show

2058
01:25:17,529 --> 01:25:14,090
just like that like this is [\h__\h]

2059
01:25:19,569 --> 01:25:17,539
terrible TV why did I spend two days two

2060
01:25:22,989 --> 01:25:19,579
full days watching every episode hinged

2061
01:25:26,890 --> 01:25:22,999
it had to and I'm not smarter nor do I

2062
01:25:28,150 --> 01:25:26,900
know how to homestead man

2063
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:28,160
sawsan will do that was a really good

2064
01:25:34,270 --> 01:25:30,650
episode man hey don't forget to check us

2065
01:25:35,860 --> 01:25:34,280
out on a UFO garage PC comm I've got

2066
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:35,870
some goodies on there for you guys you

2067
01:25:40,030 --> 01:25:37,970
can check out all of our episodes you

2068
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:40,040
can check out our intro if you're if

2069
01:25:44,350 --> 01:25:41,810
you're a new listener you can listen to

2070
01:25:47,260 --> 01:25:44,360
the intro to our episodes and you know

2071
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:47,270
find out what we're all about also UFO

2072
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:48,650
con 2020

2073
01:25:54,610 --> 01:25:50,930
oh yeah all over California listeners

2074
01:25:58,420 --> 01:25:54,620
check that out go to UFO Con 2020 calm

2075
01:25:59,770 --> 01:25:58,430
and uh yeah yeah get your tickets and

2076
01:26:02,320 --> 01:25:59,780
come out and say hi to us

2077
01:26:05,260 --> 01:26:02,330
hell yeah that'd be sook I'm gonna send

2078
01:26:07,630 --> 01:26:05,270
max to NASA send max to NASA dude yeah

2079
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:07,640
we need some donations for max and and

2080
01:26:11,170 --> 01:26:09,650
also I still want to find like a little

2081
01:26:14,290 --> 01:26:11,180
charity around here for Christmastime

2082
01:26:15,820 --> 01:26:14,300
maybe get some kids some toys yeah so if

2083
01:26:17,410 --> 01:26:15,830
you guys want to donate and help us out

2084
01:26:18,580 --> 01:26:17,420
with that because I mean it's gonna be a

2085
01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:18,590
bummer when we show up to these kids

2086
01:26:27,220 --> 01:26:21,920
houses and really um so sorry we don't

2087
01:26:29,110 --> 01:26:27,230
have any toys for you but uh here's a

2088
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:29,120
magic trick and then like we pretend to

2089
01:26:34,900 --> 01:26:30,530
take their nose off and it's like our

2090
01:26:36,250 --> 01:26:34,910
thumb yeah dude so I mean we'd like to

2091
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:36,260
do some Christmas donations stuff

2092
01:26:41,070 --> 01:26:37,730
because if not I mean they're getting 40

2093
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:41,080
bucks for me and in 40 bucks for Ben

2094
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:46,130
yeah but yeah that was an awesome

2095
01:26:52,990 --> 01:26:48,530
episode yeah check out the website

2096
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:53,000
you'll folk on what else oh we need to

2097
01:26:59,620 --> 01:26:57,050
get Lorien on we need to schedule her to

2098
01:27:01,600 --> 01:26:59,630
Seattle yes we got to do that yeah do

2099
01:27:03,910 --> 01:27:01,610
that don't forget to check out Phoenix

2100
01:27:06,820 --> 01:27:03,920
shaving in Phoenix shaving calm go see

2101
01:27:09,700 --> 01:27:06,830
what does Zach going on over there and

2102
01:27:12,130 --> 01:27:09,710
uh cuz you got some like Christmas stuff

2103
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:12,140
coming out so Christmas since I'm not

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gonna buy him cuz Christmas yeah

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abduction 51 calm go check out their

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gear those there are our brothers from

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across the pond and uh yeah man no

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subscribe subscribe to us on YouTube

2109
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yeah yeah if you uh listen on YouTube I

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01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:31,430
know we got like what like I'm like

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01:27:37,180 --> 01:27:34,490
90-something members now on the on the

2112
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UFO garage podcast group so if every

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single one you guys

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goes and just hits the subscribe button

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really quick I mean you don't even need

2116
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an account to do that you just go click

2117
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Subscribe do you I thought you did no I

2118
01:27:51,770 --> 01:27:49,020
don't think so say I never made an

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account okay don't think so even if you

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01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:54,090
did I mean how many times do you put

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01:27:57,710 --> 01:27:56,250
your email on something a day right and

2122
01:27:59,210 --> 01:27:57,720
it doesn't mean anything

2123
01:28:01,880 --> 01:27:59,220
yeah I mean this is kind of one of those

2124
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:01,890
things and if you do now you can just go

2125
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talk [\h__\h] to people right in the

2126
01:28:09,050 --> 01:28:06,540
comments and that's like I mean I don't

2127
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write but I definitely enjoy reading

2128
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them so go talk [\h__\h] to people in the

2129
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comments

2130
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sign up and so I can go read them and

2131
01:28:18,890 --> 01:28:16,460
don't forget to subscribe to us on on

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01:28:20,450 --> 01:28:18,900
Facebook and wherever you listen to us

2133
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you know whether it be Spotify

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01:28:26,180 --> 01:28:23,640
iHeartRadio whatever shoot us a little

2135
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:26,190
like maybe send us a little comment on

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the bottom even if it's like you guys

2137
01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:31,860
sound like farts on the radio that's

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cool too like you know all the love out

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of love manages it just helps us helps

2140
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us climb those those charts yeah and our

2141
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ratings on iTunes podcast - those help

2142
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our stuff show up yeah yeah we're trying

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to get more lessons than Led Zeppelin

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radio so if you guys could help us get

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more listeners than Led Zeppelin radio

2146
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that would be awesome

2147
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that's gonna be too hard nah dude I mean

2148
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they're only just known as the pinnacle

2149
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of rock and roll I've never heard of

2150
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it's these chicks from England Oh got it

2151
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yeah no but uh yeah guys uh I think it's